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Best Man/bridesmaid/social Media Issues-seeking wise counsel or maybe it's me

Kate, on March 21, 2021 at 2:17 PM

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This might be a long, convoluted story. Dig in. My fiance's best man will be his best friend from elementary school till now. I don't like him nor do I care for his long time partner. We will call this pair Mark and Mary or as I like to call them, the Gruesome Twosome. My fiance obviously has had...

This might be a long, convoluted story. Dig in.


My fiance's best man will be his best friend from elementary school till now. I don't like him nor do I care for his long time partner. We will call this pair Mark and Mary or as I like to call them, the Gruesome Twosome. My fiance obviously has had relationships before me-but it is the relationship before me that caused the issues. My fiance dated this girl for 3 years and they double-dated a lot. Now I don't know Mark and Mary were that crazy about the ex, but it was convenient and a sort of tradition they established-note Mark and Mary live out of state, but it's basically a four hour drive from they live to where my fiance and I live.

My fiance's breakup with his ex threw a wrench in all this cosiness. I think when he started dating me, Mark and Mary weren't crazy about having to start from scratch again. They expected that I would want to do the double dating thing with them and be close. I don't. I am not a social person and am very private. I have my own circle of friends and I am not one to glom onto people and I don't like them glomming onto me.

When I met the Gruesome Twosom the first time, they called me by the ex's name 3x-my fiance took them aside and politely told them to knock it off. Now I will admit, while the ex and I do not have common names, they can sound similar. They immediately tried to become familiar-too close right away, calling me by the nickname my fiance and family call me after being corrected by my fiance about calling me the ex's name. I told them that I was not comfortable with that and only my fiance and family call me that name.

Now also keep in mind, before they met me, my fiance announced our relationship on facebook and we also went instagram official. My social media is locked up tight. I was bombarded by facebook and instagram requests from the Gruesome Twosome, which I turned down. They brought this up when I first met them and I told them my social circle is small, I like it that way and only my closest family and friends are on my social media.

Mark and Mary did not like this, although they put on an accepting face for my fiance. After this not so great initial meeting, they made more attempts to try and double date. I told my fiance Mark and Mary were not my type of people and I felt they were trying to force a relationship. Whenever they visited, I either had friends over, my family or I was working.

My fiance and I have more money than Mark and Mary and they were used to tagging along when my fiance and his ex would go on vacation. Last year, before the pandemic, my fiance and I took our first ski trip, a trip the Gruesome Twosome always tagged along on and they assumed that would be the case. I told my fiance I didn't want them going and he told them, it was going to be a private trip. They were not happy. For three years, they relied on my fiance taking them along to places they would never see otherwise, in their words, taking much needed vacations. That stopped with me.

But back to present. Because Mark is best man, Mary assumed she would be a bridesmaid and even basically hinted that. I told her no, that was not the case. I also strongly suggested that she would not be a part of any prewedding events. I find her two-faced and extremely nosey about me. She admitted to googling me before she met me. I also know that she and Mark and tried to follow my family on social media, but that was unsuccessful.

Mark has told my fiance even though he is best man, he feels his relationship with him has changed since I came along. My fiance says he doesn't feel the relationship has changed.

For me, I do not see that I have to be friends with these people. I don't expect my fiance to be friends with my friends. Polite, yes. I feel intruded upon by these people and am setting boundaries.

So, has anyone ever had this issue and what did you do?


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    Ingrid ·
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    You've put this out there so I'm going to offer my opinion and please know its just my opinion from reading your responses

    This sounds like an explosion waiting to happen and the outcome doesn't look pretty. Its either going to come undone between you and your FH or its going to happen with his friends. Either way you will be in the middle of all of it, probably a place you don't want to be.

    Your comment about them coming to town and not being invited to your birthday party bc only family and friends...they are you FH friends and probably almost considered as family. I understand a tight circle but your circle and his are going to intersect.

    I would calm down your disdain of this couple and let them in a little. Maybe in a couple of years your relationship with them will be different just like some else said.

    Again this is just my opinion from reading your responses. I would hate to be the reason my FH and his best childhood friend stop talking and I would hate for it to happen to you. Think about your interactions with them and think if its worth loosing your FH over.

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  • mrswinteriscoming
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    mrswinteriscoming ·
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    I totally agree with this.

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  • K
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    Kate ·
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    Ingrid, thank you. I have been thinking. I have realized that like I said, that maybe Mark would not be such an issue if Mary wasn't involved. I can't get past the bridesmaid thing with her.

    I also have an issue with them trying to invite themselves along to things like my birthday party and the ski trip. I was raised you don't do stuff like that. I find it rude. I realize they also may find me rude, so I get that as well.

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  • Kimberly
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    I’m sorry but no, you don’t need to sit down and talk about how his best friend will fit into your lives. You’re basically saying that because you don’t like him he doesn’t have a place in your lives and that is not ok. You have 100% judges these people on the simple fact that they were friends with your FH’s former girlfriend. You are choosing not to like these people because of your jealousy and are blaming it on them just not being “your cup of tea”. You don’t know anything about these people because you haven’t given them a chance at all.
    Don’t come between your FH and his best friend. Put aside your jealousy and selfishness and give them a chance.
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  • K
    Beginner June 2022
    Kate ·
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    I am not jealous in the least. My problems stem from them trying to invite themselves to things, being very nosey about me and Mary assuming that she will be a bridesmaid for the sole purpose of getting Mark to see her as marriage material. Did you miss that part?

    Also, the conversation between me and my boyfriend about his best friend and his best friend's girlfriend will be about how to make them a part of our lives without them intruding on my boundaries.

    Thank you for assuming. And I don't like the angry tone that your post had. I am not your child. You've no right to scold me or be so hostile.

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  • K
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    Kate ·
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    And you don't know anything about me. I can tell you I know more about Mary and Mark than you do.

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  • Kimberly
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    You put something out on a public forum and I responded. Your post sounds like pure jealousy to me. You didn’t like this woman before she ever overstepped with assuming she’d be a bridesmaid. Nope I didn’t miss that part at all.
    Good luck to you.
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  • mrswinteriscoming
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    I can appreciate that you didn’t like how Mary assumed she would be a bridesmaid (frankly it is irritating when anyone does this) or that she and Mark invited themselves to things, but my take on this (and Kimberley’s from what I gather) is that you got off on the wrong foot with Mark and Mary without giving them a chance, that is, before you even got to know them (and got to the point of them inviting themselves places and expecting things) you made presumptions and automatically made your mind up about them.

    The whole premise of ‘I have my own circle of friends’ and ‘they called me by a nickname’ I thought as quite standoffish in that you dismissed them without good reason or for rather petty reasons. I suspect that this may in part be something I have interpreted because of the sheer way in which you set out your original post.

    Ultimately, these people will be in your fiance’s life whether you like it or not. You have two choices with how you proceed, you can either continue as you are going and indefinitely tread on eggshells around them, or you can try and talk to them gently and perhaps establish your own understanding with them. You do not have to become best friends with Mark and Mary but it is not going to make things easier for you or your fiancé if you dismiss them and want nothing to do with them, at least given that they seem to be relatively decent people.

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    Annie ·
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    Honestly after reading the posts and the comments, it seems like you are the problem but you refuse to see it.
    I'll repeat what others have said: you are being standoffish. The social media and googling isn't weird (I come from wealth too, still not a big deal). Your best man wanting to have a relationship with your fiance and spend time with you as a couple isn't overstepping boundaries. You should try to be tolerant of these people and become friendly with them for your FHs sake.
    But it seems like you refuse to take any of this constructive criticism and instead insist on fixating on the bridesmaid thing, which also honestly isn't a big deal. I strongly urge you to take a beat and read these comments as though you are an outsider, without immediately defending yourself in your head. Try to see what we are all seeing and then approach the situation in a better way. Married life is being friendly with people you don't particularly care for because you love your FH. It's a part of every single marriage. Learn to deal with it.
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    I'm going to put this as gently as possible but you are 100% the problem here.


    These people are trying to be friendly and welcome you (the new person) into their social circle. They are trying to be inclusive. You are rejecting every effort these people make to try to integrate you into their lives and complain that they are trying to be welcoming. You refuse to go on a double date? Really? And for that they get a rude nickname from you?
    Your entire attitude is standoffish and rude, not to mention your references to you having and coming from money. Did it ever occur to you that your FI invited these people on skiing trips because he likes their company?
    I actually feel bad for this couple, they're going to lose a good friendship because of this.
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  • Vicky
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    All of this.

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    Yup. All of this.
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    We only know what you post. And based on everything you have posted, you decided not to like these people before you met them and then you made sure you wouldn't ever have to change your mind. You call it setting boundaries, but it reads as a planned campaign to cut these people out of your future spouse's life.

    And since this seems to be the one thing you insist responders acknowledge: I will come out and say that I don't think the bridesmaid thing is a big deal. Annoying in the moment? Sure. But very easy to deflect ("I have already chosen my bridal party, thanks") and inconsequential in the long run. Many people have posted about similar experiences (people assuming incorrectly) and it shouldn't be the nail in any coffin.

    Again, my opinion from reading what you have posted: The problem between you and the "Gruesome Twosome" is that NOTHING they could have said or done would have made you happy (because of your history/their history/personality differences/whatever).

    I sincerely hope you can find it within yourself to lighten up your attitude towards your future spouse's best friend.

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  • Kk
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    Could not agree more with all of this.
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  • Bethany
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    Polite friendliness does not have to equal best friends. I have a few male friends who have been in my life for a very long time. When they start dating someone new, you bet your bottom I'm going to check the new girl out on social media. Not because I'm a creepy stalker, but because I want to know more about this person who someone I care about has brought into their life. I want to meet them because I want to get to know them. On the flip side, I've made an effort to get to know all of my FH's friends and their significant others. Would I hang out with them all one-on-one? Not necessarily. But I've gotten to know them well enough that we can chat while the boys are having boy time.

    There's nothing wrong with being introverted and having a small social circle, but I think you're taking some things to the extreme. For example, declining their friend requests? How hurtful, and what a concrete show of "no I do not accept you." Unless they have done something overtly offensive (and no, briefly calling you by a nickname that other people actually use or assuming bridesmaidhood does not count), there is no reason to shut them out like this. Keeping your social media private is fine, I do the same. But these are people your FH has known for many years so provided you trust his character judgement, I think you can let them in. You do not have to like all of your FH's friends, but you do have to make a minimum effort to not actively dislike them. Giving them a mean nickname only further solidifies how much you don't like them and every time you think or say it, you're refusing to even allow yourself to give them a chance.

    Honestly, I'm surprised they haven't given up on you and that must really be a testament to how much Mark cares about your FH, which makes this whole thing even sadder.

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    The most reliable way to build a persistent request for attention is to be inconsistent in how you treat requests. And you and your fiance treat overtures for attention/ spending time together, from this couple, in the most erratic way I have ever heard of. It is okay to decide that the guys will stay friend, but you will infrequently ( when invited by others) have anything to do with them as a couple. But that means not inviting them to couple things at all, like not the wedding,, and his not being a Best Man whose fiance is automatically invited to the wedding and prewedding parties. ( not bridesmaid, but as part of a couple with him.) You are saying yes to him as BM, you have to say yes to a certain amount of things as a couple. You cannot expect to fine tune everything to what you want, in every situation. That would come off as arrogant and egotistical on your part. Both of you obviously talked about this, without making the crucial decisions. If you are ever to assosiate with them as a couple, either of you, then you have to make more of an effort to get along. Or decide only the guys will ever see each other, and that will be for single activities, no Best Man, never out as a couple.
    As long as you send mixed messages, you will have this mess of your own making. Talk to FI. Now.
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    Kate ·
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    There is nothing wrong with me denying anyone social media requests. My social media is only for my CLOSEST family and friends. My fiance's friends don't fit that category. I don't care for nosey people nor spying on me. You just said you are going to check out whoever your friends date. That is not your call or business. It is your friend's decision, not yours. He is an adult who can make his own choices.

    My life is private, period. I am under no obligation to share, which is why my social media is set to private. It was also rude for Mary and Mark to comment on that and to be upset they weren't friended. I have never sent any friends of my fiance requests to be added on their social media.

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    Kate ·
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    I have never had an issue re Mark being best man. That is completely up to my fiance, as it should be! BUT, I have the right to say no to Mary being a bridesmaid and just because Mark is best man, does not mean she will be invited to prewedding parties. She won't be. She is not my friend. She will be Mark's guest. She will not be coming to my bridal shower, spa getaway, bachelorette, going wedding dress shopping nor will she will be helping me get ready day of. I would NEVER presume to do those things if the situation were reversed and she and Mark were being married and my fiance was best man. We are not close and I have my own friends, a sister and family I will be having at prewedding bridal events.

    Also, Mary is not Mark's fiance. She is his girlfriend.

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    I made it clear, not bridesmaid.
    Though not engaged, having been an established couple more than 2-3 years means that she should be invited with BM to prewedding parties where HE is invited as best man, usually engagement and RD. Of course not shower or bachelorette.
    And of course not shopping for a wedding dress or spa day or getting ready. Why would she want to do those with you? Just the prewedding parties he is invited to as BM that are for couples.Most of her overtures you say " hinted" she wanted to be bridesmaid or other qualifier, that makes it sound like you overreacted. You really need to sit down with your FI. And learn to be polite and sociable around his friends to a certain degree, like them or not.
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  • mrswinteriscoming
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    Spot on.

    If I added my fiance’s friend on Facebook and they declined it, I would also ask why I wasn’t ‘friended’ – after all, this is the person I am marrying, I am going to see these people from time to time, and hear from them/about them from time to time, so why wouldn’t I consider them part of my circle, at least from a distance?

    It doesn’t boil down just to social media, rather, the issue here is that all Mark and Mary have tried to do is befriend OP and welcome her with warm and open arms and at each step of the way OP has spat in their faces. I would be mortified if my fiancé had such blatant disregard for my dear friends and personally I would be evaluating if that’s the type of person I want to spend the rest of my life with.

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