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Lisa
Beginner January 2022

Family unsupportive — help!

Lisa, on October 22, 2020 at 11:57 PM Posted in Family and Relationships 0 12
Ok this might be a bit long, sorry in advance. Here’s the back story: I’ve been divorced twice. My first marriage was totally a young and dumb kind of situation— I met my first husband and we had crazy chemistry and we were both each other’s rebounds. We knew each other for 6 months before we got engaged ...and then we got married on the same day (court house wedding—like I said young and dumb). Then we had our daughter who had severe medical issues and my ex just started spiraling. He became pretty unhealthy and when he threw something toward me, I was just done. I didn’t want to raise my daughter in that environment so I left him. That was like 7 years ago— since then, hes gotten help, and now we have a great cop parenting relationship. I regret nothing—I learned a lot and I got my daughter out of it.


My second husband was a more complicated and sad situation. We dated for three years, long distance. He was in the army and stationed in a different state. I was raising my daughter and getting my doctorate, so moving wasn’t an option. We got married earlier than we wanted to because my school dropped my daughter from my insurance and, with him being in the army, she could get great coverage if we got hitched. We wanted to get married eventually anyway so we thought, why not have a court house thing now and then a “real” wedding when he got out of the army (he was set to get out in late 2017). So we did. It was all good until he moved home and the transition from army to civilian life basically broke his mental health (he also was severely abused as a child). He just pretty much lost it. We had to call off the “real” wedding because he was like out of his mind and basically just being super depressed and having severe PTSD symptoms. We were a month out from the wedding—we lost all the money on the venue, the flowers, the DJ, the dress. Oh, my dress. I had spent so much energy customizing it and I eventually just told the seamstress you keep it because it was too sad to deal with. (Girls I had the bottom literally dipped in gold paint)
Anyway, we found him some great treatment centers and I tried to find the balance between being devoted and smart—military trauma is real, and I wanted to give him a chance to heal. Long story short, he didn’t get better enough to be healthy and—after being with him for five years—with a heavy heart I divorced him, knowing it was the only way to have a peaceful household to raise my girls (I got pregnant and had a second beautiful daughter with my second husband). That’s the short version. The long version involves 2 years of counseling, 9 different therapists and a LOT of crying, self reflection and learning the hard way.
I thought I would never love again. I felt like I was damaged goods — two kids, two baby daddies. But I was self sufficient so whatever. Then, when I wasn’t looking, I met my current partner. He’s so good for me—and for us, as a family. Loving, supportive, emotionally mature, smart funny blah blah. He loves my girls like his own (dude does the middle of the night bottle/diaper/rocking to sleep for the baby without being asked). He was solid when I was a mess for the first 6 months bc I was so terrified of being hurt again. There was never any pressure. He just made it very clear that he loved us and if we would have him, he wanted to be with us for the long haul.
It’s been a year. It’s only getting better and more stable and secure every day. My heart is finally healed enough to trust myself to know that, yes, I want this guy to be my life partner. I’m not in a position to get married right away (I have career and financial goals that I want to prioritize) but I want to honor that he’s so much more than a boyfriend. I want to be fiancés. He wants that too.
The problem is, in the words of my sister, my family “Doesn’t take my relationships seriously any more.” She told me that I should just make like easier on myself and my partner by waiting a few years so that everyone will accept it as a real relationship, because a year isn’t a long enough time. That hurts because I feel like I take my relationships very seriously, and it’s insulting to have people assume I don’t know what’s best for me. This man is family and I want to honor that by inviting him to join our family. At this point, the only reason I wouldn’t become engaged to him is because I’m worried about people acting like I’m being stupid (like, I’m a 35 year old successful business woman who is raising 2 beautiful girls and am killing it—I’m not a dumb kid anymore).
I want to propose to him on his birthday next month (he’d be totally fine with it). But I feel like I wouldn’t be able to tell my family because they’re so judgmental and “don’t take me seriously.” I need advice. Thanks for reading this far. (And for those who are asking, I set my profile to a false wedding date because it was so joyful to me when I was finally healed enough to start thinking about weddings AT ALL anymore. For a long time after cancelling the wedding with my ex I couldn’t see wedding stuff without feeling pain. So no, I’m not engaged yet but yes, I adore wedding planning stuff generally)

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Latest activity by Marcia, on October 30, 2020 at 4:50 PM
  • V
    Champion July 2019
    Veronica ·
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    I'm sorry for everything you have been through. However, I agree that a year is a rather short period of time. It sounds like you raced into both of your other marriages so I would take your time before getting married again. If you guys plan on being together forever, there is no reason to rush.
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  • Caytlyn
    Legend November 2019
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    I personally don't think it matters what anyone else thinks about your relationship status. Not us, not your family, not anyone. Would I get engaged for a third time after a year? Probably not, but you're an adult who can make your own decisions. I also would take your sister's comment with a grain of salt. You don't actually know that other people in your family feel this way, you just know that your sister does. At the end of the day, it's great to have the support of those around you, but you are the one who has to live with the decisions that you make.

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  • Yasmine
    Master October 2020
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    Do whatever works best for you and the family your created. When you begin your own family/life, it doesn't really matter what everyone else thinks of you INCLUDING YOUR FAMILY. If you feel like proposing is what is best for your family, then go for it. You don't even have to tell them you're engaged if you don't want to. Its YOUR life!

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  • Katie
    Expert January 2021
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    Before I got to what your sister said, I was thinking the same things. Two divorces and a third engagement in 7 years is a lot. If you know you're going to be together forever, what's the harm in waiting? I think your previous track record with relationships/marriages isn't great and they want what's best for you and your children. I agree with your family, I think you should really focus on yourself and your kids and not worry about getting married again for a long time. They can't constantly having men coming and going from their lives.

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  • Margaret
    Master October 2020
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    It's no one's business but yours and your bf's on how you proceed with a relationship. If you want to get engaged, do it. Don't look for validation from strangers, because what it sounds like is that you kinda agree with your family but want strangers to tell you what you want to hear and what you already want to do. So do it, if it makes you happy, and it makes your man happy - do it.

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  • Mcskipper
    Master July 2018
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    I’m of two somewhat conflicting minds here— one aide being, it doesn’t matter what anyone else thinks about your relationship except the people in it— you and your bf. Don’t put so much weight on what other people think of it.
    That said if someone’s comments ever seem like sage advice, they ought to be considered.
    The “flip side” mindset I have here is, WHAT is the rush? Why do you need a ring to feel solid in the relationship — if you guys are open and on the same page about your future, there doesn’t need to be any rush for a wedding. Moreover you even specifically say you’re not ready to get married yet? Maybe it’s just me, but I would hate to be proposed to with a caveat , a “will you marry me ....eventually but definitely not yet?” Personally id say no to that, and ask me again when you’re really ready. I think it’s important to ask yourself what you’re hoping to gain with an engagement , what the goal is there if it’s not marriage just yet (albeit, eventually, sure). One might say commitment, but I’m of the opinion that commitment comes without a ring — being on the same page with open discussion. Of course we all love marriage on this site, but marriage doesn’t start or end a life together. My husband and my life together started way before a ring or a formal engagement, but started when we started making future plans together. When we were solid on those, we bought a home together. Eventually a ring came, then a ceremony and party, but not much changed with those formalities. In the between time, as we settled into our home together and our life together before getting engaged, I never felt any rush for a ring. Because we talked goals and shared them and knew that was in store for us eventually. We both knew we were solidly committed, so the rest came in due time.
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  • Lisa
    Beginner January 2022
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    These are all really helpful comments. I should clarify that I don’t feel a rush to get married again. I actually would prob wait about 3-5 for the actual wedding. But I want to honor that this man is family. I think it would mean more to him than to me. He feels very much like an outsider of our family unit, and it would help him to know we’re on the same page about the future. But I appreciate everyone’s opinions. I’m not looking for validation as much as I’m trying to have some feedback from people who aren’t so close to the situation, so I can understand better how my family is seeing it. Thanks all!
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  • Margaret
    Master October 2020
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    Engagement doesn't confirm "family." My husband and I were together 3.5 years before we got engaged. I was invited to family events at year one of Holidays. I didn't feel any less family. His family still embraced his ex-wife at that time as well. And quite honestly, it wasn't until this year that my ILs included me in family texts and that's a year after our engagement and just months before our wedding. So, I'm sorry if he's truly your partner and you want him to feel like family, then YOU TREAT HIM LIKE FAMILY, it's not your family's job to treat him like family. When the time comes, and they see all the wonderful things you do, they'll treat him like family. Like anyone else, he has to earn that spot of family and respect.

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  • MOB So Cal
    January 2019
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    I agree with this very much. As a "35 yr old successful business woman...who is 'killing it'," I'm not sure why you're so concerned about what others think, that you'd get engaged as some means of proving something to them and/or others? If you and bf are happy in your current life and relationship, and not ready to get married, I'd just enjoy the life you're building together. And, like pp said, if you treat each other like family, others will likely begin to see you that way. Also, given the history you've described, it seems like it might be beneficial to you and your girls if you take your time to see how things continue to develop over time. Good luck!

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    Very well said. Given your your past and your sister’s comments it sounds like only time and his actions will help family to trust a new guy- and it makes sense, they’ve seen you go through really tough situations! I’ll just echo that I don’t think a ring is going to make him feel more like family. Hopefully, he knows exactly how you feel, so it won’t change that. But it could make your family more weary of accepting him or, even worse, make him more aware of the lack of acceptance and left feeling like your proposal was a message to them rather than something for him. Sounds like you’ve finally found the right guy, I’d say just try to enjoy it for now ☺️
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  • Julie
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    Oh sweet girl. While they're judgment is hurtful, i would hope they're coming from a place of love and wanting what is best for you and your girls. That being said, when you know something is right, you know. I will also say there is nothing wrong with waiting, it is soley up to you and your partner though. I suggest sitting down with the nay sayers and telling them your feelings about how they reacted. Have an open mind to their concerns but be firm in your resolve, and if they still try to manipulate you, tell them you're sorry they feel that and their invitation will be in the mail. At that point the ball is in their court. You will have done all you can do.
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  • Marcia
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    I wouldn't worry too much about what your family thinks. People talk.


    I would worry about you. Relationships can be serious without engagement. Make sure you are taking that step because you are 1000% ready, not because you want to give a gift to your wonderful man. You owe this to yourself and, most importantly, to your children.
    Lastly, I have always been given the advice that you should only marry someone if you can both answer this question with a yes: if one of you stepped out of the wedding and got hit by a car and became paralyzed, would the other person stay married to you. Real marriages weather incredible storms. They are in sickness and in health. Make sure you can be with your good man even if he takes a bad turn before you decide to propose.
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