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Erin
Just Said Yes May 2025

Feeling Manipulated, Embarrassed, and Sad

Erin, on August 9, 2023 at 1:10 PM Posted in Family and Relationships 0 5

My parents are divorced and have been for 23 years, but both have always been around. My dad is better off and has paid so my siblings and I could graduated college without any debt. He supported me through grad school and has been incredibly generous, without asking much in return. He does, however, have a temper and is prone to outbursts, playing the "I gave you everything card, but maybe you're better off without me" when he doesn't like something one of us does.

I got engaged at the end of June. When I first talked to my dad and asked if he would be willing to contribute to the wedding, he said yes just tell me how much. I decided a range of what he was comfortable with was a better approach, as my mother, in-laws, and fiancé and I were also planning to contribute. He gave me a range, but nothing was finalized.

I have a hold on a venue and wanted to talk to him about the planning process (and money) again before I sign the contract. I called and asked if we could find a time to talk. He said Monday. Monday came and he was too busy. I agreed to talk to him at 6 am while he was on a train this morning (his suggestion). I was prepared for something on the lower end of his range, as he seemed upset about the idea of this conversation. I prefaced it with I wanted to include him in the process and we could go from there.

As soon as the conversation started, he was throwing knives. Talking about child support, college payments, rifts with my mom's family. That it's a dumb way to spend money. He ultimately said he can match my mom and that's it.

I said thank you. I then talked about how with a smaller budget, I wasn't sure I could invite all of my cousins on his side of the family (I don't know them) and would also eliminate some of the cousins on my mom's side to be fair. With that, he said he would just not attend my wedding and I could do what I want.

What I want is for him to be excited about this. To want him to participate in some way, even if he does not want to financially. I also don't want to be manipulated further.

My mom is upset by this because I was hyperventilating at 6:30 am and said she would help me make up the difference that I anticipated getting from him. This is incredibly generous of her.


Would it be wrong to move forward with my original plan (still inviting his family and friends and him - I think they should be there even if I don't know them well, also it will lessen the chances he has an outburst) but only with the money I can pull together from my mom, in-laws, and fiancé, not accepting any money from him? I don't want to include him in the financial aspect if he is going to be erratic and generally mean. Is there a nice way to say I don't need him to pay for it? Is there a way to honor my mom for the sacrifice she is making?


Sorry this is long - I'm so embarrassed by this and I don't want to share with my friends or much family as I think it is one of my dad's worst moments.

5 Comments

Latest activity by LM, on August 9, 2023 at 6:16 PM
  • Michael
    Rockstar October 2023
    Michael ·
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    It would seem best to include your dad and selective of who else to include on that side of the family. You described him as providing for various needs over the years and so it is reasonable, barring some obvious disastrous threat, to include him. As to cousins you don't really know, it may not be so important to invite them. I had been to some cousin's weddings but would have been fine if not invited. (But now, I have thought of trying to reach out more to my cousins.)

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  • Jacks
    Rockstar November 2054
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    I would decline his money because it would seem it comes with strings attached. If you want to truly have the wedding you want, I would pay for it yourselves. However, if you want to work with your mom, then you're not obligated to invite your Dad's extended family. Personally, I would avoid caving to his emotional manipulation. If he threatens not to attend the wedding simply say "you would be very missed".

    I would thank your mom by potentially asking her to walk you part way down the aisle? Or perhaps thank her specifically in your speech to the guests? Maybe make a toast to her during dinner?

    One other thing is that neither of your parents is actually obligated to help pay for the wedding, and I would really avoid asking.

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  • K
    Super September 2023
    Kimberly ·
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    First off, you have NOTHING to be embarrassed about. This is about how poor behavior and doesn’t reflect on you at all. I’m also assuming, without knowing him, that his attempt to use his money to get his way is his way of manipulating you into letting him wield control over wedding decisions. That won’t stop, so definitely move on without his money. Since you’re at the start of the process, it’ll be so much easier because you haven’t committed to anything yet in reliance on his money. Definitely still invite him, and once his childish gimmick doesn’t work, he still has plenty of time to come around and get excited.
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  • R
    Beginner September 2024
    Rachel ·
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    I think it’s wise not to accept money from to not allow him to hold it over your head, I would recommend you continue this past just your wedding too.


    One way you could honor your mother is to do a mother daughter dance in addition to father daughter dance. I am doing that and my parents are still together. I also am having both of them walk me down the isle. You could have her or both of them walk you. (Sadly wedding “norms” put a lot of importance on the father of the bride as opposed to mother of the bride). Another thing you can do is thank her in your speech for her being a financial partnership in the wedding.
    Hope it’s smooth sailing from here for you.
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  • LM
    Super December 2022
    LM ·
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    I'm sorry you went through that. Weddings can be an eye opener when dealing with families, and you've only just begun planning. I think you should meet your Dad where he's at and budget without his money or excitement. It sounds like a pattern of behavior where he likes to swoop in and be the financial hero. But, you're your own hero. You and your partner can pay for the wedding, as many couples do. This may involve changing to a less expensive venue or delaying your wedding until you can afford it. It's really best not to involve others' money as you don't know if your Mom and your future in-laws will need that $ for their own emergencies.


    I do think Dad should be invited where he's free to decline. Having a tantrum almost 2 years before date should not be indulged though. His immediate family can be considered if within your budget. But, his friends are really extraneous.
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