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Groomsman called to back out!

Elizabeth, on July 24, 2019 at 11:38 AM Posted in Etiquette and Advice 0 18
Wedding is Jan 2020 on a cruise ship. We are paying for everyone's cabin/taxes/fees/gratuities as well as $79 per head for on-board wedding/ reception. Guy is one of my best friends (if we all weren't so old, he would be a "bridesman" as opposed to telling FH to make him a "groomsman"!) Anyway. Guy is married to a bi-polar woman who, self-admittedly, "hates people". They have never been on a cruise before, and Guy claims they both "were looking forward to it."

FACT: this wedding has been "on the books" for over 18 months (we needed that much time to raise the necessary funds).
FACT: his cabin has been paid-in-full for about 6 months and his engraved groomsman's gift has been purchased and engraved and his tie just arrived.
FACT: they sold their house last month and moved to a new city and and are building a new house.

He called yesterday (about 2 hours after I finished a 14.5 hour overnight shift and had just called asleep!) to tell me his wife's new job would not allow her the time off to go on our wedding cruise. He called out like he was an invited guest, which, if he WAS "just a guest", no big deal; things happen. But he is NOT "just a guest"! His *wife* is, but he is a Groomsman!
Can I tell him that I'm sorry his wife's new job will not allow her to accompany him on the wedding cruise, but, that I will not release him from his obligation as a Groomsman? Granted, if this was a land-based wedding, it would be easier to tell him to "suck it up" and leave her at home for the weekend, but this is a 5-night Caribbean cruise...

What are your thoughts?

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Latest activity by KiwiDerbyBride, on July 24, 2019 at 8:45 PM
  • Elizabeth
    Expert September 2019
    Elizabeth ·
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    Sorry to hear this is happening. Releasing your groomsman from his duties leaves you short a groomsman and not releasing him may cause other types of drama. Try a serious conversation with your groomsman about how important it is for him to be there, the time you've invested in planning your wedding, etc. Did your groomsman make travel arrangements already or not?

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  • Mandi
    Master October 2020
    Mandi ·
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    "Oh. That's ok. But you're still coming and a part of the wedding, right?"
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  • Mandi
    Master October 2020
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    Granted, you cant really force someone onto a cruise ship with you. That IS kidnapping. But you can absolutely make it clear that you're expecting him to still come, and that you're quite annoyed if he isn't.
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  • Danielle
    Master June 2019
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    I'm not sure you have the ability/right to "refuse to release him from his duties." Life happens, and you can't control other people. It surely does suck that he is backing out, I get it...one of my bridesmaids backed out last minute and I had already ordered personalized gifts. Sorry you are going to be out of so much money......BUT, other than politely asking him to reconsider, there really isn't much else you can do. Unfortunately, other peoples lives and timelines don't stop for someone else's wedding. Sounds like an opportunity came up that they needed to do, and his wife's new job is important to their lives and I can understand him not wanting to go without her. I know you were relying on him to be there for you though, so I am sure it's hurtful. But try not to let it consume your thoughts / time. Take the loss and move forward with planning the best y'all can. Your wedding is too special to you and your FH to let any outside factors "ruin" it.

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  • Gloria
    Super March 2019
    Gloria ·
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    This is kind of hard due to the fact that we don’t know if he is willing to leave his wife for this cruise that would be something that you and your fiancé need to sit down with him and talk about .maybe he would understand where are you guys coming from if you bring it to his attention that he is part of your wedding party .. good luck
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  • Kelly
    VIP October 2020
    Kelly ·
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    I honestly laughed! You are kidding right?
    "Release him from his duties"? Are you the army or his employer? If not then you have to suck it up and get over it.
    Do I think he should have bailed on you? No. But you can't force people to do things and can't control someone else's life or marriage.
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  • Sarah
    Master September 2019
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    He’s an adult. No matter what you say or want to say, it’s his choice whether he attends or not. Honestly if I were in his position and you tried to force me to come to your wedding, not only would I not go, I wouldn’t be friends with you anymore. I don’t take kindly to other adults trying to force me into things.
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    Melle ·
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    You can say I'm sorry your wife can't make it, will you still be able to attend and be our groomsman?
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  • Caytlyn
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    Is he under contract? Are you paying him a salary? I understand your disappointment, but I don’t understand why you think you have the right to “release” him from his position. If he can’t make it, he can’t make it.
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  • ASMini914
    Super September 2019
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    I would just ask him this.

    It it sounds like you may have already paid for his accommodations on the boat, which I can understand would be really upsetting. Is this money you can get back?
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  • Brianna N
    Super October 2019
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    Haha I laughed at that too Smiley xd

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  • Christine
    Expert September 2020
    Christine ·
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    You can't force him to be a groomsman, especially for a destination wedding on a cruise ship. I know this is really frustrating and that you spent a lot of money on him already, but he isn't obligated to do anything. You can ask him if he'd be willing to come without his wife, but if not, then you can either find someone to take over his room or see if the cruise company will let you cancel his spot.

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  • Btbride
    Super August 2019
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    The answer is no, you can’t force someone to go on a cruise without his wife. You’re a bride, not his boss.
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  • Keri
    Expert November 2019
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    Exactly this. You can't force him to be a groomsman. You chose to get him an engraved gift and tie, but that doesn't obligate him to keep his commitment.
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  • J
    Master October 2019
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    I agree with this. I think that's really really rude of him to not be a groomsmen still as you paid for him to have a room etc.. Not like you can get that money back!

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  • needmorewine
    Expert May 2016
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    I agree with this. You can't force him to go on a cruise without his wife.

    This is one of things that can happen when you choose a destination wedding, and especially a cruise wedding where your guests are stuck on a boat for days. It's more inconvenient for guests and when things happen that are outside of their control it can make it so they are unable to attend at all.

    Sure, it might have been possible for him to attend a land based wedding alone for a night or 2, but to expect him to go on a 5 day cruise without his wife is unreasonable.

    There's 6 months until the wedding, you should be able to get most, if not all of the fare for his cabin refunded.

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  • LB
    Champion November 2016
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    My thoughts are it was your choice to pay for everyone so early ahead of time. That was a gamble and unfortunately it didn't pay off.

    He is fully allowed to say he can't come. Hard stop.

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  • KiwiDerbyBride
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    KiwiDerbyBride ·
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    You can't refuse to release him from his obligation. There's no way you can force him on the cruise. However, if you can't get a refund from the cruise line, I think I would be asking him to pay for his room.

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