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Tori
Savvy December 2021

Guest List Madness Thanks to Fh!

Tori, on March 30, 2021 at 1:45 PM

Posted in Etiquette and Advice 42

Y’all. I need a safe place to vent. My fiancé and I have been together for 6 years and have two kids together. We fight a lot! But we are finally tying the knot this December. I wanted a small wedding (75 guests) due to Covid and budget constraints, mainly, but also because I want everyone in that...
Y’all. I need a safe place to vent. My fiancé and I have been together for 6 years and have two kids together. We fight a lot! But we are finally tying the knot this December. I wanted a small wedding (75 guests) due to Covid and budget constraints, mainly, but also because I want everyone in that room to be with us for the rest of our lives. I’m not even inviting my aunts and uncles who I AM close with, because I don’t want to cause a snowball effect with extended family members. The guest list includes our parents, siblings and their immediate families, and each of our very best friends and their families. My LOVELY FH keeps inviting people behind my back and I’m getting ready to pull my hair out. He wants to invite 4 different families (an older couple who helped look after him in his high school years and all 3 of their kids, their spouses, and kids) who I have LITERALLY never even met before. In fact, the one son who was his best friend removed my FH from his life due to a falling out and did NOT invite us to HIS wedding. And they have never even spoken since we’ve been together! But, FH still talks to his siblings and parents because they were like family at one point. He also wants to invite two more friends and their spouses who’ve we’ve seen once or twice in the past 6 years, plus 2 couples from church who we are not even close with! We have our venue and caterer the 75 number. I already purchased chargers and centerpieces. This is ridiculous. And honestly, if we’re going to raise the guest count, I’d rather give it to my aunts and uncles who I am close with who I know will be in our lives forever! What do you guys think? The guest list would go from 75 to 105.

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  • M
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    Monica ·
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    Me and Fh fight alot sometimes. He doesn’t get my point of view a lot of the time. We come from different upbringings. Fh has some toxic traits and I have some that are not so great. Some couples might be picture perfect and perfect on paper but thats not always reality. But we choose who we love and continue to make it work regardless. Me and FH ( well we eloped so more like DH) have been together 15 years. 1 6year old daughter between us. Baby on the way & our wedding celebration is in October. We try to change what we can but when change is difficult we work to move past it.
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  • A
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    Alli ·
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    My thought - since you asked lol is why are you guys getting married? Red flags galore... yikes.
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  • Jeana
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    Jeana ·
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    Approx 20% off RSVP's are no's so you will probably be closer to your 75 people mark than you think. However, I am worried about you guys fighting a lot, marriage won't magically fix compatibility and communication.

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  • Tori
    Savvy December 2021
    Tori ·
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    Hey Alli,
    Yes, there have been a lot of red flags over the past six years. There have been separations, there has been infidelity. There has been arguing and toxicity as everyone in this thread feels lead to comment on.

    However, we have two perfect children who we love immensely. We are also Christians with a strong faith, but it took my fiance a long time to get to where he is today. It took a lot of work. It took counseling. It took heart break and sacrifice. We practice forgiveness daily, because we wouldn't survive otherwise. I realize there are many people here on WW who have always had healthy relationships with the ability to resolve conflict with their spouse in a healthy manner and have possibly never walked the road of infidelity with their fiancé. My fiance and I have endured so much hardship and against all odds, we made it. Yes, in part, we have our children to thank for that. It makes me proud to say that we have walked through the lowest valleys, we have experienced the deepest of hurts, and even then, we have chosen each other.

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  • Tori
    Savvy December 2021
    Tori ·
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    Yes, this is what I'm thinking now. A lot of these people would be coming from 2.5 hours away, so the chances of them actually even showing up are probably even a little less.

    I worry about us fighting a lot, too! Haha, but it's really improved from where we were 3 years ago.

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  • CountryBride
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    Yikes, I think you need to take a step back from wedding planning and take a look at your relationship, it's not healthy to fight as much, Arguing every now and then is fine but fighting a lot is not healthy especially when you have kids. your wedding is one day your marriage is forever and if you are fighting a lot now you may have a hard marriage, you stated that you have been together for a long time and have had separations and infidelity it's great that you worked through all that but if your still fighting then maybe you should put the wedding on hold and focus on your marriage, In your opinion you shouldn't tell him to not invite these people if they are close to him and you should be able to invite your aunts and cousins I would have a discussion with him and come up with a guest list that suites both your needs not just one

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  • Tori
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    Tori ·
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    Thank you for the advice (: We're considering inviting both my aunts/uncles and the people he wants invited too. We are thinking that only 75% of our guest list will show up, so it might work out after all. It's still scary thinking, "but what if they all DO show up," haha!

    I really appreciate the advice, but I can tell you this with transparency: we are not going to stop fighting. Even the healthiest relationships include arguments. We are two very different people, and we are not compatible. We are secure enough in our relationship to say that it's true, we probably wouldn't have made it as a couple if it weren't for our daughter. She was the little bit of glue we needed at the end of the day when everything was falling apart. And we are okay with saying that (:

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  • Sexypoodle
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    Sexypoodle ·
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    This is the first thing that came to my mind as well. You literally started your post exclaiming, “We fight a lot!” That seems like a more important issue than 30 extra guests.
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  • Elizabeth
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    Elizabeth ·
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    Most couples aren't compatible. No two people truly are perfect for each other. We are all flawed human beings, and real love is learning how to cope with and work with another person. That's why good relationships are hard work. I also appreciate that you have worked on your relationship for the sake of your daughter.

    I do think there is a difference between arguing and fighting. My parents had a toxic marriage for the first 5 years, and for the last 20+ they have had a great one. Do they still argue? Hell yes, oh my goodness yes. They get salty with each other all the time, it's actually kind of funny because they are just so different. The difference is not that they stopped disagreeing, but that they stopped toxic behaviors. They no longer yell, call each other names, storm out of the house, threaten to get a divorce and take the kids, etc.

    I'm the only kid in my family who remembers what their toxic phase was like and only vaguely, but their fighting affected me so much that my school actually had me put in a special needs class and work with a therapist because I was struggling to cope so much at age 4-5. Kids will pick up on toxicity, and it hurts them, makes them feel unsafe in their own home, and hurts their ability to grow and thrive.

    If you're fighting, that doesn't mean you have to break up, but it does mean you have serious work to do, for yourself and your daughter. If you're just arguing, eh, have at it.


    Edit: saw your previous comment, it seems like you are putting in the work to make your relationship better. Good on you!! Praying for your success.

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  • Tori
    Savvy December 2021
    Tori ·
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    I apologize. I was really frustrated and needed to vent when I wrote the original post.
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  • MK
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    MK ·
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    You don't need to apologize for venting! That's literally what this entire forum is for - venting and giving/receiving advice. You really don't owe anyone an explanation regarding your relationship. People will pick apart your original question to give you an opinion on something completely unrelated to your question. Don't apologize to strangers for coming onto an advice forum and seeking advice!! Good luck!! I hope it all works out for the sake of you and your precious family!

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    No need to apologize Tori. It’s a public wedding forum with its main purpose of trying to figure out the questions asked. If you post we will answer!
    My thoughts: you mentioned a few times your fiancé’s past and how far he has come. That he has worked really hard to get to where he’s at at now. Perhaps that person at the mall he worked with 10 years ago said something of significance and resulted in the man you gave fallen in live with. Also, I think it very important that the people who took him in be a part of this life celebration.
    Please ask him who he would like to celebrate this day with and honor that. Perhaps there is more of a reason why than you know of.
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    Alli ·
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    Yikes. Best wishes.
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  • Mrs.evans
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    I'm sorry for the craziness that u are having to deal with but we have to cut our guest list down to half. Because of cost per person and we decided that we really don't need all these ppl to prove that we love each other. I really hope that both of you come to agree that both will be happy with
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    Judith ·
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    I almost never go for raising the count. But the perfect exception to the guideline to not invite someone you have not talked to in 3-4 years, or someone you are on the outs with, is, unless you want to change the situation and start seeing them regularly. And whether or not you care about or are close to other relatives, these aunts and uncles clearly had a strong role in your younger life, and you want them there now. Raise the guest count. Buy more chargers. Stop buying many other things if the venue supplies neutral ones. Add these obviously much cared about people back to your list. As for his mom hating the woman who took him in when he needs a place, she can quietly hate anyone she wants. As long as she shuts up about it. Rarely does a boy need a family to take him in at that age that momma as well as others is not part of the cause. Meanwhile, you FI is happy they did. As for people at your wedding you have not even met, you have 7 months, enough for a few dinner or cookout invitations. Stop fighting so hard to keep the numbers too small. If you must cut some costs to have more people, better to scale it down than miss important people.
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  • Tori
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    Tori ·
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    Thank you, Judith! This well written response was actually very helpful. We decided to go ahead and add both my aunts and uncles as well as the family who took him in during his teen years. (Hopefully my MIL behaves, but there are no guarantees)! Our total count came to 107 with at least a third being from out-of-state, so we may be closer to the 75-85 number anyways. We did come together and decide to pass on his old friends from his former job who we no longer see.

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  • Jennifer
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    Gotcha! Yeah I would just reiterate to him that family should come first! Good luck!! Smiley smile

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    Previous Co-workers would be a pass unless some one moved nearby and you really want to start again, for most people. Good for you!
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    Separate- other emotional issues: Some have an easy early upbringing, relatively the usual squabbles. And some have a tough time, modeled y the dysfunction of parents or other relatives. You have clearly go into this relationship too immature, a few years back. But seen something in each other, under the insecurity and acting out. Having put in as much time a d 1:2 work as you have, if the other is now worth it, put away the red flags and go in wholeheartedly.
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    Have you guys found a wedding planner ?
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