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Trinity
Beginner May 2020

Kids or No Kids?

Trinity, on June 26, 2019 at 3:47 PM Posted in Wedding Reception 0 43

Hello Everyone!

We're getting married in Tulum, Mexico in May, 2020 and instead of a reception after the ceremony, we're going to charter a yacht and only invite our immediate families and best friends on the charter with us. My two sisters and my fiance's older sister all have kids under 5 years old, as well as our best friends who have a toddler and a newborn. I mentioned to my fiance that it made me anxious to think of toddlers on a yacht, and joked that nothing will kill a celebratory vibe more than a kid falling off the boat and drowning.

Furthermore, my fiance will be graduating medical school earlier that month and 90% off the friends we're inviting on the boat are his friends from school, so we both really wanted a fun graduation vibe- which for a bunch of mid/late-20s and early 30-year-olds, means alcohol and loud music. Personally, I'm not a fan of children and I think it will not be a kid-friendly environment and would prefer to not have children on the boat -for both safety and party environment reasons- and my fiance agreed. When I brought up the idea of not having children on the boat, one of my sisters said she would probably just leave her daughter with her in-laws if that were the case, and my other sister was very combative and accusatory, wanting to know what to do with her toddler then if she were not allowed to the boat party. I suggested that she could use the babysitter service through our villa management company, a reputable company that rents out luxury homes and offers a bunch of amenities including babysitting, and was told she would not leave her kid with a stranger. I then suggested she leave her daughter at home and was told she "wasn't ready to do that yet", even though her daughter is three and my other sister's daughter is one and she was willing to leave her with family, so that seems kind of unreasonable.

I haven't even gotten around to asking my fiance's sister for fear of even more push back (she's super emotionally sensitive and has also three kids under 5, so she always feels "left out" of things), but I've compromised on essentially everything in my wedding to accommodate our families and gave alternatives to the "no kids of the boat" scenario. I don't have kids nor do I plan to, and I'm kind-of notorious in my family for being anti-children, so am I just being irrational? Ideally, I would choose no children on the yacht; I think it would be weird to try and get drunk and dance with a two-year-old watching you and having to keep an eye on children nearby. My mom suggested having all the children wear life jackets as a solution which is a great idea for the safety aspect of things, but not so much for the toddlers milling around a bunch of drunk adults portion.

Yeah it's a bit selfish to ask that they do something else with their kids for 4 hours, but if you can't be selfish on your wedding day, when can you be? Lol! I have been super accommodating throughout this whole process (I wanted to elope and didn't even want a wedding), changing our location 3 times because immediate family couldn't or wouldn't travel to where we picked and constantly trying to work out how to invite 150 family members to a wedding without paying $30,000+, since I'm paying for our wedding alone without help from my fiance or our parents. Yet since I constantly get advice on how I "should do things", this had probably made me a little more sensitive than most, but I feel like I have sacrificed a lot and that it's not too much to ask to request our siblings sacrifice something in return. Obviously though, I don't have kids so maybe I don't get the full picture?

What do you guys think?

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Latest activity by Trinity, on June 26, 2019 at 11:50 PM
  • MrsD
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    I'm not a mother yet, and I can already tell you there is NO WAY in the world I'd leave my kid in with a sitter I didn't know. Especially in Mexico, or any other foreign country. Regardless of the company and it's reviews. My only option would be to leave my child at home with someone I know & trust. For a lot of people, that's hard and there aren't many options. If you don't want kids, you'll have to accept some people with kids won't attend. Our venue has a kids room with a nanny service and we are serving kids meals and making our wedding kid friendly, and some out of state people still aren't coming because it's a pain to travel with kids.

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  • Sarah
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    I agree with all of this. I’d decline a destination wedding if my child wasn’t invited to attend all or part of the wedding. I’d never hire a sitter service to watch my child in a foreign country and then just go out on a boat for hours while she’s with a stranger. Also, it isn’t up to you to decide when a mom is ready to leave her kid behind. All kids and all moms are different. I wouldn’t travel internationally without my child and she’s 6. That’s my prerogative as a mother.
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  • Heather
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    I personally wouldn’t ask people with young kids to travel that far and leave their kids at home with someone else. All our wedding guests are having to travel 4+ hours to get to our wedding, so if they have young kids, I invited them too. Although, I am a mom of 2 young boys (ages 4 and 1) so I know how I would feel. If I were invited to a wedding where I had to travel and spend the night, and my kids were not invited, I wouldn’t go. It’s one thing to ask them to get a trusted sitter for a few hours, and something else to ask them to find child care for a couple day or childcare from strangers. I totally understand her not wanting a complete stranger watching her kids, I wouldn’t go for that either. It’s your wedding, and ultimately what you want. If you don’t want kids on the boat, don’t allow kids on the boat (totally understand the safety concern). You shouldn’t feel bad about asking for your celebration to be the way you want it.
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  • Trinity
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    Thanks for your point of view!
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  • Trinity
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    Thank you for your point of view! I guess as a childfree person, I don't see a problem with leaving children with a reputable childcare service, but that might be because I don't have children. I guess the point of my questioning is that as a parent, would you feel comfortable with your toddlers around 20-30 drunk adults on a boat? Because if they're feeling okay with it, then at the end of the day it should be okay!

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  • Trinity
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    That's fair. You shouldn't feel obligated to leave your kids at home, and I am okay with people -even family- not showing up. Also I guess I should mention that the combative sister and I really are not on good terms and never have been, so it's probably just an argument for argument's sake because we don't like each other, haha.

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  • Heather
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    I personally wouldn’t be ok with my kids being on a drunken cruise, lol. And if it were me, I would happily attend your wedding with my kids and then kindly bow out of the boat ride. If your guests feel comfortable with it, I would make it extremely clear that no one else will be watching out for their children and that they are solely and fully responsible for their kids while on the boat. However, if you’re a worrier like me, I would just say no kids on the boat, because even if they weren’t my kids, I’d be trying to keep an eye on them, and it would take away from being able to fully enjoy myself. That being said, don’t be surprised if your sisters or fsil back out of the boat portion of the party.
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  • Cristy
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    Whether it's a boat ride like you are planning, or a more traditional venue for the reception, if you don't want kids there, you're perfectly within your rights to do that, and not unreasonable. However, if that is your position, you must be prepared for some of your guests (even family) to decide not to attend. It's a big deal for parents to leave their kids, and most won't leave them with a stranger, even for just a few hours. I think you're right that this "party boat" is not a place for children.

    Just don't be mad at your family for choosing not to attend because of this.

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  • Trinity
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    My mom said the same thing: "Tell parents they are responsible for their own children and you won't watch them", but I am definitely a worrier like you said and that's easier said than done, haha. It's easy to get distracted and lose track for a couple of seconds, and I always imagine the worst-case scenario in my head, so I feel like I would instinctively watch after the kids who were nearby. But if my sisters and friends are okay with it, then I guess it's in their hands to watch after their children and their safety.

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  • Trinity
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    Great points, thanks Cristy! We had that same mindset when we chose a destination wedding, you just have to be at peace with the fact that some people will not attend and respect that.

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  • Caytlyn
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    100% agree with this. You’re well within your reason to dictate who you do and don’t want at your wedding, you just have to decide if your desire to not have children there is greater than your desire to have their parents there. I’m also curious how your FH feels about this since you never once mentioned his opinion?
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  • Allie
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    With the type of reception you are having, I definitely think you shouldn't invite kids. With that being said, I can see both sides of the story. Sisters will feel left out if they can't come because of their children. I had the same dilemma when I started planning my wedding. I wanted to get married on a cruise ship, but my closest cousins have 3 children under the age of 5 and they aren't comfortable with them being on a cruise ship until they are a little older. Ultimately, having my cousins attend my wedding was more important than getting married on a cruise ship to me.

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  • Trinity
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    Hi Caytlyn! I mentioned that we both wanted more of a graduation vibe and that he agreed no children would be best. Neither of us were really into the idea of a wedding and were pressured into it by our families, so we're making the best of it by having it double as a graduation trip as well!

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  • Trinity
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    Good points Allie, thanks!

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    When you say invite only close friends and immediate family on the yacht, do you mean other people will be invited to the wedding but not the yacht reception? If so, that's super rude. The reception (even if it's a casual vibe party on a yacht) is a thank you for attending the ceremony, so you should definiltey invite everyone who's attending the wedding to the reception portion.

    With regards to kids, I would invite them and leave it up to the parents. Some parents might be fine with taking their kids on the boat, some may not be. It sounds like you don't really care if a lot of people decline, so you're fine either way!

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  • Trinity
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    Hi Lady, I understand what you mean about the reception, but I disagree. Our extended families are aware of our financial situation and that we cannot accommodate a reception for 150 people; it's the main reason of why we chose destination instead of a wedding back home- to weed people out because we couldn't afford to host everyone. As someone who wanted to elope, I honestly don't mind if people feel left out, particularly because I'm paying for it on my own and feel that if someone isn't contributing financially, then they really can't tell me what to do with my money. I know that might sound mean or callous, but as two students in graduate school with mounting student debt, we really didn't see it as a priority to go even further into debt for a large wedding, and have created something that works for us a couple. Everyone is different!

    Thanks to everyone here, I also agree that it just seems best to leave the decision up to the parents on if they want to bring their kids or not.

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    So even if 150 people pay money to travel to your destination wedding, only 20-30 are invited to the reception? I'm genuinely not trying to be snarky, but why are you inviting so many people if you're not able to host them and don't care whether they are there? You absolutely shouldn't go in debt for a wedding, but if you haven't sent invites, I really would urge you to reconsider your guest list and just invite the people close enough that you'd invite them on the yacht part.

    If you don't communicate the tiered reception ahead of time, you will have some very upset people that paid a lot of money to see you get married. It really is better to just not invite them, than trick them into coming and not host them.

    Maybe i'm reading this totally wrong - I can't totally tell. There's nothing wrong with having a small wedding. YOu don't have to invite people out of obligation. Just invite who you want!

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  • Mandi
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    So tbh TLDR. I skimmed.

    That being said, I'm not a parent. But many of my friends are. Last year, my fiance's friends took a child free adults only trip to Mexico and left their children with the grandparents. (Sidenote: these children were all under the age of 1.) Idk if this is an option for your guests.

    If it were me, I wouldn't want to take my child to Mexico and would leave them home with my parents. And I certainly wouldn't want them on a boat with a drunk college crowd.

    I think you're right.
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  • Trinity
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    So we did tell everyone that it is a ceremony only and that only immediate family and close friends were invited to the "after-party"; We both have large extended families who are very close and it wasn't an option to not invite everyone- like it would have started WWIII, haha. So we just made it clear to everyone that we cannot afford a reception but they are welcome to come to the ceremony, and everyone was happy with that and mostly just wanted a vacation.

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    Cool - I think as long as people knew ahead of time and could make the decision to come or not with all the information then you're ok.

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