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Just Said Yes August 2019

Less than 2 months til wedding + sudden health issues. Help!

V, on June 25, 2019 at 2:44 PM Posted in Community Conversations 0 11
Hi girls,

I'm a long time reader, first time poster. I am in desperate need of some advice.

I have been engaged for well over a year (we wanted a long engagement, as most of our family lives out of town/state/country, and we wanted to give them 18 months notice to plan for travel arrangements, time off work, etc).

Things have been going well with planning. We got our first choice on vendors, catering, photographer, basically everything we wanted since we booked so far (over a year) in advance!

In 2016, I got braces (for the second time. I had them once when I was a teenager and after my wisdom teeth grew in, it shifted my teeth (even though I religiously wore my retainer), so I wanted them back into better position). They were supposed to be off early 2018.

Towards the end of 2017, (around the time we were discussing marriage) I noticed that my teeth (while still in braces) were slanting to one side. I brought it up to my Orthodontist, and he said it's always been like that, which wasn't true. We compared my "before" pictures from the beginning of treatment that he took, and he agreed that it happened during his treatment, but said he was unable to fix it. I was furious. I paid $3500 for that treatment. I found another Orthodontist who said he could easily fix it, but he wanted my teeth to settle for a couple of months before we started. So I got my braces off in November.

Like I said before, marriage was already in discussion at that point, but we weren't officially engaged yet. In January 2018, I had braces with the new Orthodontist put on. All I wanted was to fix the slant in my teeth, but somehow, my new Orthodontist talked me into completely changing my bite in addition to fixing the slant. My dentist is not happy. I'm not happy. In fact, I am so angry with myself for agreeing to that.

When I first had the consultation with new (current) orthodontist, he said that the slant could be fixed in time for the wedding. I should have just stopped with that. He said that I had an overbite (which I already knew, but never had an issue with for my entire life, and my two previous orthdonitsts and dentist never wanted to change it (they said there's no need to change a bite if there's no issue with it)). He said it would imporove the overall health of my mouth and he strongly advised it. Idk why, but I agreed, even though it meant that I'd be wearing braces during my wedding. But I figured this was my third time getting braces, and I might as well make it worth it. I asked if he'd be able to take the brackets off for the wedding day, and he said no. He said that I could choose clear brackets and take the wire out for the wedding (+engagement and bridal photos), though. I then thought about the idea of waiting until after the wedding to do treatment, but the slant in my teeth (though they were perfectly aligned, and honestly not that bad now that I look back) bothered me enough to want to change it BEFORE the wedding. I also thought of post-poning the wedding until after treatment (another 2 years), but everyone (including myself) thought that was a stupid (and vain) reason. So I just decided to get clear brackets and the bite appliance all for $6000 (which that should have been money used towards the wedding). I am so angry with myself for this decision, especially now since it has basically RUINED my life.

Back in April of this year (with only 4 months until the wedding), I had an adjustment done by my Orthodontist. It completely messed up my jaw and teeth, causing severe TMJ Disorder, and has so far landed me in the Emergency Room TWICE due to the amount of pain. On top of it, he KILLED two of my front bottom teeth (which are now starting to turn grey). It has been a little over two months, and I have been in so much pain and still am! I've lost 15-20lbs so far, from not being able to eat (I'm on liquids only). I've seen so many doctors and specialists, and they've been unable to help, saying he caused irreversible damage. Everyone said to wait it out and that it *should* get better, but I'm going on month 3 now, and there has been no change.

My wedding is now less than 2 months away, and I don't want to go through with it if I'm going to be miserable and in pain like I am now. We're also going to Orlando for 10 days on our Honeymoon (it's pre-paid already), and how am I supposed to enjoy the theme parks and eating while I'm like this?

I don't know what to do. If we cancel the wedding, we forfeit THOUSANDS ($8K at least so far) of dollars worth of deposits and payments (the deadline to cancel has already passed). Even if I cancel, and I end up feeling better by August, I'll be so upset that I canceled.

We thought about post-poning, but a lot of dates are already booked for next year, and since we passed the cancelation deadline, it'll cost extra to reschedule the date. Plus, how do I know I'll feel better by the new date?

Our families have also booked their flights (and are non-refundable).

I am so upset with myself for making this decision to fix/change my teeth before the wedding. But I'm also so angry at my first orthodontist for messing up my smile to begin with (my braces should have been off before we were even engaged!!!), then I had to go to another Orthodontist to fix it, and he made it even WORSE! On top of it, since he was so concerned with correcting my bite, he hasn't even begun to work on the slant, so I'm still going to have slanted teeth (which look way worse than before), dead teeth, and tremendous jaw pain on my wedding day.

My dentist said that he can help fix the pain, or so he says (he's an orthodontist too), but it'll cost $8000 to try to correct what the current Orthodontist has done( $4000 up front). But he also said that the orthodontist caused irreversible damage (and that I'll probably need veneers to fix the dead/dying teeth). That's a big chunk of our remaining wedding budget.

What would you suggest? What would you do? What should *I* do? This has all turned into a NIGHTMARE!

Also --Our formal wedding invitations were supposed to be sent out in April (around the time this all happened). Everyone knows when and where the wedding is (so are they even necessary?). We keep putting off sending them out because we don't know if we should go through with it now due to my mouth. Smiley sad

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Latest activity by Jo, on June 26, 2019 at 12:31 PM
  • Gen
    Champion June 2019
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    I am SO sorry you are dealing with this! So my mom has had several dead/dying teeth, and she has had an absolute nightmare with their procedures to keep them alive. She said she wished she just had them pulled and then had fake teeth put in. I know that sounds scary but it may be your simplest and least painful option for that at least :/ Again I am so so sorry you are going through this. Dental pain is the absolute worst and I can't even imagine what you are going through. Have you thought about taking the original orthodontist to small claims court to correct the damage that he did?

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  • Selena
    Super September 2019
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    Just hugs. I have no advice for the wedding. I would probably keep it on, but I don't know how severe your pain is.

    I did have a tooth my orthodontist killed though. I ended up having to get an implant on that tooth. Good luck, I hope you can get the pain under control.
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  • V
    Just Said Yes August 2019
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    I cry everyday with regret. I cannot believe this even happened. Why, why, WHY???? did I do this? I know why... I wanted to look "perfect" for the wedding. Stupid me also got my eyebrows microbladed earlier this year (so they would look good FOR the wedding; and I absolutely hate them). As soon as I got home, I called the artist and asked how to get rid of them. She advised using hydrogen peroxide twice daily to fade/remove pigment. It didn't help much. For my engagement photos, I wanted pretty nails (especially since there'd be lots of hand/ring photos), so I got acrylic nails (Gel X tips?) put on, ns I absolutely hated them (they were painful and uncomfortable). I begged the nail artist to take them off at Midnight (the morning of the photos). also wanted to get Botox to get rid of wrinkles. I just wanted to look absolutely perfect (as we all do for our wedding), and I've regretted everything I've done. Because I had the bad experience with the braces, the eyebrows, and the nails, I decided to pass on the Botox (even though I still think about it), because I knew something WILL probably go wrong with that, too. Why do we put ourselves through this for one day? My fiance loved how I looked prior to the wedding. Why did I feel like I needed to change/enchance my appearance?

    The jaw and teeth pain are so awful. I had to cancel going to a family member's wedding (THE DAY OF!) due to the pain. I spent Easter and Mother's Day in bed. My daughter's birthday was last week, and I was in a ton of pain, but I didn't want to ruin her day, so I "put on a happy face" and went with it (even though I was hurting so much inside).

    I really just don't know what to do. I have actually spoken to at least 10 attorneys, and especially those who specialize in medical/dental malpractice, and they've all said I have a case, however, they all said it would cost $100,000-250,000 just to take it to trial, and that I'd maybe only get $50,000 back. So they both basically get away with what they've done. I could try small claims, but idk if the legal fees would be more or less than what I'd make back (and that's if I even win).

    I feel so discouraged. Smiley sad
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  • Allie
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    I wouldn't cancel the wedding. There should be something that can help you get through the pain. If you do decide to keep your plans, I would still send invitations out. They're nice to have and people appreciate them. It seems like this has caused you chronic pain at this point? I don't know about trusting another dentist to fix what the others did. I'm hoping you can find some relief.

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  • Anna
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    As a formal dental assistant I would say dentist only care about money. Not all. I've worked with like 1 who didnt. It's about looking around and talking to people. About your braces, you can try taking those off. The teeth will shift back, that's why you have to use your retainer after you get your braces taken off. It will take a while to do. I'm always amazed how people will get braces for one little problem. I will tell them their teeth are fine.
    But dont cancel the wedding. It's too much. I also think cause your much in pain, your not thinking clearly and going to any dr that will solve it. It sounds good. Just remember in the end it's your teeth and health.
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  • Tessa
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    I completely understand the pressure you feel to look perfect. I also have gotten consults with orthodontists in hopes to fix 2 of my bottom teeth before the wedding. The timeline didnt fit for me so I passed. But I am doing nails, spray tan, botox, lip filler, ect. for the big day. I am SO nervous but I feel so much pressure to make myself look perfect. I've been trying a series of facials to make my skin smoother for 18 months and I don't see any difference. Not only have I spent a lot of money, I still only see huge pores when I look in the mirror. I keep trying to remind myself that my photographer has my back and she will help me. Any small imperfections they will fix, they can even remove your braces in the editing process! I had my braces removed for my senior photos and they turned out wonderful (this was 13 years ago, so I'm sure its even better editing now). When you look back decades from you, I am sure all you will see is a happy, beautiful person. You wont see any small details that you might be seeing today. Trust your photographer and take a really good pain killer. You got this!

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  • Kelsey
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    I don't think you should cancel your wedding. I'm so sorry this has happened to you! I knocked my 2 front teeth out in gym class when i was younger, my dentist somehow bonded all the pieces back together. After that I also had to get braces when I was in high school, my over bite when right back to where it was before I had braces (my teeth are straighter though). A few years after that my front teeth were discoloring severely and cold was awful for them. I ended up getting implants for them.


    I know this may not help you, but I work at personal injury law firm. I highly suggest calling another attorney I know you stated you did. But most of the time dental/ medical malpractice cases settle out of court.

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  • M
    Dedicated August 2019
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    I don't know you, obviously, but you are obviously a wonderful, gorgeous, fantastic individual. Your fiance thinks so! Whatever "perfect" you are chasing for your wedding day is all society, not reality. Go through with what you want, but only because you want to. Nothing beyond standing in there with the person you love and someone who can sign a form matters. Heck, you could go up in cut off shorts, just-woke-up hair, and chipped Wet n Wild nail polish. Your fiance loves every bit of you, your guests will be estatic to celebrate with you, and nothing but the two of you matters.

    Otherwise, pain is horrible, I get you there. See what ways docs can suggest dulling the pain (you may have to get unorthodox here), but don't put off saying yes to the person you love because of chasing perfection. They already chased you 😉
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  • Jo
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    OMG I'm just so so sorry. I wish the story had stopped with ONE bad orthodontist experience and cannot believe it went on and on! Your dentist in all this seemed to be pretty reasonable, can you visit and see if they have advice? Can they help you cosmetically cover the two dead teeth? (Not Veneers but something temporary) Are there temporary stop gaps for the pain before you invest in a whole round of corrective work? Are the orthodontists refunding you any money for the damage the have done??

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  • V
    Just Said Yes August 2019
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    When I ceased the contract with the first Orthodontist, he just made it a clean break saying that I didn't owe him any more payments from that day on when he took them off (and I had to sign a paper saying that he's no longer responsible going forward... that was probably a mistake). I was literally only a few months away from completing treatment (2-3 months or so?), so he basically got close to all of my money for that treamtnet. He won't do a refund. In fact, I actually went back to him last week practically begging him to put my teeth back to how they were (I'd honestly take the perfectly alligned but slanted teeth over what I have now). He was nice, but refused.

    With this current Orthodontist, he said we can stop treatment, and he'll "make it fair" (then corrected it to "even more fair on you (my) end"). But who knows what that even means. Even a full $6000 refund is NOT *compensation* for what he's done (and what I'm going to have to deal with for the rest of my life).

    Idk what to do about my dentist's offer of helping me *fix* this. Maybe that other person's comment (the one who was a previous dental assistant) is right, about me being in pain and not thinking clearly that I'm (basically desperate and) willing to go to anyone who can *try* to fix this. How do I know for sure that he can help, or that he's just after $8000? Plus it'll be a 2-yesr commitment (and we're wanting to move out of state after the wedding... Not like it could happen right away, but this would make it so that we are here for an additional two years). I have been living in hell for the past two-three months that I'm almost desperate enough to try (and part of me wants to try prior to the wedding to see if it helps me feel better).

    My current Orthodontist preformed unnecessary IPR (shaving between teeth to slenderize them). So now my teeth are skinnier and horribly shapped. Every time I see them, I cry. They have been extremely sensitive (since enamel was shaved off). I told him THREE times that I didn't want to do it. My other Orthodontist said IPR could help fix the slant, and I told him I wasn't okay with that, so I left. Why did I give in to THIS Orthodontist? Maybe because he said something like "we can't continue with treatment until we do it" (which is completely false!!!), but I was desperate to get things almost done and better before the wedding. (Remember how he also talked me into completely chaging my bite, too? He's very good at talking people into doing things). This is my biggest regret of all!!! My two dead/dying teeth are because of the IPR (the dentist said it was probably because he didn't cool down the drill prior to using it). I am so angry with myself for giving in all because I was in a rush basically to get things looking better for the wedding. If I was going to go through with IPR, I would have just stayed with the previous orthodontist, and I could have been done for the cost of $3500. Now I've spent $9500 just to give in and have it done anyway, and my teeth are in WORSE shape!!! Not only that, but add the cost of the two emergency room visits, prescription pain pills, doctor/dentist/specialist visits, and however much it's going to cost to fix this (plus the ongoing cost of upkeep if I get veneers, etc). It's costed me a fortune!! When all of this time, effort, and money could have (and should have!!!) gone towards the wedding and our future plans to move.
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  • Jo
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    Not to be weird, but I just want to scoop you up in a big hug because you really deserve one. Does your work offer an EAP or a nursing advice line you could call for advice/advocacy? Can you bring a tough as nails friend or family member along with you to your next appointment to make sure no one tries to run roughshod over you? Can your dentist make a call to the ortho and talk plainly with him about the damage he's done, professional to professional?

    I'm so sorry you're in pain.

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