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Expert June 2021

May be an unpopular opinion here but i need to vent about cuomo

on February 24, 2021 at 8:01 AM

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So as a lot of people may know, here in NY, Cuomo has given the green light to weddings of 150 or 50 percent capacity starting March 15. I said this may be an unpopular opinion, because I’m not happy about this. I personally think it is way too soon for NY. Our state, though numbers and cases have...
So as a lot of people may know, here in NY, Cuomo has given the green light to weddings of 150 or 50 percent capacity starting March 15. I said this may be an unpopular opinion, because I’m not happy about this. I personally think it is way too soon for NY. Our state, though numbers and cases have dropped, we still have one of the highest infection rates in the country. Also vaccine rollouts are still early. I am nervous that these weddings could potentially become super-spreaders which he will then shut everything down again and add on more restrictions to the weddings and events in the upcoming months. I think 150 is a huge leap from 50. That was the max any wedding could be up until now. I know there are couples who may really be happy about it and I understand they want their dream weddings I just can’t shake this feeling that it’s too soon. And the fact that he decided this based on an experiment they tried with a sporting event that allowed thousands of ppl to attend live with negative tests results and distanced seating. The issue with this is, at a game you stay in one seat all night at a wedding you move around, you travel from one space to the next, it’s a happy occasion, people want to hug and give kisses, alcohol is being served and inhibitions start to slip away. Personally I feel a slow increase would have been better. If the max we’ve ever had was 50 then increase to 60 if 60 with the restrictions goes well increase the next month to 70-75. I am happy cuomo is finally showing an interest in helping the wedding industry out after nearly a year of vendors figuring it out for themselves, I just don’t know if it’s too much too soon. NY took the hardest hit last spring and then over the holidays was bad and we are finally seeing trends fall. I’d hate to see them rise back up. Personally, I am keeping my guest list at 46 for many reasons, one is I’ve actually fallen in love with the idea of an intimate wedding and the perks of having one, everyone in attendance has spent time with the two of us as a couple on many occasions. My second most recent reason is if the weddings in March and April do turn into super spreaders, restrictions will come back with a vengeance and I don’t want to increase my list only to call all those added ppl to cancel. One of the reasons fh and I reduced so early was to avoid inviting than univiting. We knew 50 was the highest our state has ever gone so we chose to stay right below it and pray we could have them all come. What are your thoughts on cuomo’s 150 weddings starting March? Do you think it’s too soon? Or do you think all will be fine? Anyone on the fence?

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    Dedicated September 2023
    Meghan ·
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    Yeah, I understand this. If the world had the ability to completely shut down and quarantine for 2-3 weeks, this would've been over long ago. While completely shutting down is impossible (we all need food, medical care, energy, and heat), it's frustrating seeing unnecessary things (like weddings!) being allowed before it's safer. From the government's perspective, why not just wait a couple more months! Get more people vaccinated, and let infection rates fall further. Wait for the weather to be nicer so more things can be done outdoors. I understand thinking "we had 22k people at the Super Bowl, why can't I have 150 people at my wedding?", but plenty of people (and massive sports organizations) do stuff every day that isn't safe or recommended. I'm not going to run that red light even though the person next to me just did.

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    Dedicated September 2023
    Meghan ·
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    My fiance is informing me that everyone in the crowd was vaccinated, mostly health care workers! Clearly I wasn't paying attention when the Super Bowl was on Smiley xd Doesn't mean that they wouldn't be able to spread the virus to others (you can, even being vaccinated), but better than just 22k randos.

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    Just Said Yes August 2014
    Eve79 ·
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    Absolutely agreed w/everything you say, Ava!

    1) Weddings take away more personal space than other places being discussed here. At the store, I stand next to people, but it's a few minutes at most and we're all wearing masks. Plus, I'm not hugging and dancing with unmasked people while I'm at a store lol, but there's plenty of those things at weddings. I also highly doubt masks would stay on at a wedding.
    2) People being spaced out by cardboard cutouts provides a lot more blocking/complications to get through (plus, there's TV cameras on you, and I'm sure security) instead of just...nothing lol "hey here's 10 empty chairs between us that is super easy to cross, and nobody is patrolling us"
    As much as I hate saying it, (large) weddings are probably the worst thing for covid. Most won't wear masks, its hours vs minutes amongst unmasked people, and there's little personal space.
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  • Expert September 2021
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    According to NBC Sports, 7,500 of the over 22,000 were vaccinated healthcare workers who were given free tickets. There's no way to know who/how many of the fans were vaccinated - or honestly how much that made a difference. Personally, I'm here for packed out stadiums watching the game, I just don't think you can be selective with who/what you require certain Covid rules with. If we're allowed to do one major event, we should be allowed to do another. That's just my opinion! We will be having our wedding entirely, and whoever isn't comfortable with it doesn't need to come. The same with a football game

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    Meghan ·
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    Ugh... that's not enough for protection / herd immunity at the event! Guess the NFL has done a good job spinning it to make people who don't do their own research think it was all vaccinated people. But ~of course~ we had to have a Super Bowl :eye rolls abound: Would much rather have weddings!

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  • Expert September 2021
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    Exactly! I just get so frustrated with the inconsistency. I would rather have weddings, dad's allowed at ultrasounds, packed funerals for loved ones, hospital visits etc. allowed than anything else!

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    I dunno...we have been having 100+ weddings here in NJ for the last month or so and none of them have turned into super spreaders. My son has been in school since September and also have had no issues.

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    I was just talking about this. I'm currently pregnant and my husband hasn't been able to attend any appointments and it's awful. It makes me so angry and sad that we can go to stores, restaurants, bars, and other places yet he can't come with me to appointments for our first child. It's so unfair to him because it's not like we will ever get these moments back.
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  • Katie
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    Katie ·
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    I agree with this, I live in New York State and I say it's about time things get lifted. If people don't want to have a big wedding or feel comfortable attending a big wedding then simply don't. Like this person stated how people can do this but not that. I never understood why people are comfortable with shopping in a crowded store with a bunch of strangers they don't really know but are completely against and uncomfortable with being around loved ones. That's just my opinion.
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  • Katie
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    Katie ·
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    Yes 100% exactly this is what I feel to. People can make up their own decisions.
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    Meghan ·
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    Unfortunately, this is a situation where a person's decisions have the potential to affect other people. We all breathe the same air, which right now happens to be sometimes contaminated with viral particles. What about the health care workers who would need to respond to an outbreak, god forbid that happens? What about those people in a nursing home who died because workers at the home decided to attend a wedding? What about the businesses (or the people getting married at later dates) that will be negatively affected by a spike in cases that causes further governmental intervention and shutdown? For me, this isn't the equivalent of choosing between a red or a blue shirt, a decision that wouldn't affect others. I liken it to running a stop sign. Sure, most of the time, it might not have an effect. But it's a decision that has the potential to negatively affect and even hurt or kill others.

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  • Katie
    VIP August 2021
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    What's the difference if a worker goes to a bar, restaurant, store, gas station, etc or attends a wedding. They can get covid just as easy from bars, restaurants, stores, gas stations as they can from a wedding. It's not like a wedding is the only place covid exists. It's not like these workers are still living in the same bubble they were in the beginning. If you believe they aren't going out and doing things other than work you are sadly mistaken. Plus on top of that in order to have a wedding in NY you have to have all your guests tested and in order to attend they need to be negative. Bars, restaurants, stores, etc you don't need to be tested to go to. So a wedding is actually more safer.
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    I don't think there's much difference between going to a bar/restaurant and a wedding, which I why I would advocate for shutting down indoor dining also. Point being, the more we shutdown now, the better the situation will be in the future, especially as vaccine efforts are currently ramping up. Infection probability is a combination of 1) masks/no masks 2) social distancing 3) ventilation/air circulation and 4) time of exposure. Going to the store, you are masked and in contact for a smaller window of time, so that's less risky. Getting gas, you are either masked or, if not, you are outside and around people for a much shorter amount of time. Regarding testing, it's only a snapshot in time. Because you can spread c*vid days before you test positive, relying on testing to tell you if you're safe to mingle is similar (in my messed up mind) to relying on pregnancy tests for birth control. The individual is alerted to a problem when it's too late. Along those lines, I think allowing events where people are tested is certainly better than not testing (if someone does test positive, you can do something about it before they attend), but it shouldn't be taken as a guarantee. I equate it to "security theater" at the airport, where they're "screening bags", but how much do they actually help? Not much. (90% of security threats were allowed through in a study done within the last few years, yikes). Testing lowers the risk of a wedding becoming a super-spreader event, but it does not erase that risk.

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  • Katie
    VIP August 2021
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    Of course it doesn't eliminate the risk 100% but in life nothing is a guarantee. The vaccine everyone is relying on for things to go back to normal isn't a 100% either. This virus will be here longer than we will just like the flu. And even if we were to eliminate this virus through people getting vaccines there will only be another virus taking its place. There always is. We can't live in a bubble the rest of our lives because of this unless you choose to for yourself. We need to get back to normal sooner rather than later. We are all adults who choose our paths in life. Everyone knows the risk, if people choose to live in fear by all means but some of us choose to go on and live our lives. Everyone takes risks each and every day of their life it's a part of living in this world.
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    I agree with you 100%!
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