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Savvy February 2023

My perfect dress is making me face parental issues

Mimimushrooms, on March 15, 2022 at 4:36 AM Posted in Family and Relationships 3 10

Disclaimer: I need to say this upfront but “Tell them it’s your day, not theirs!” and “You’re the one paying for it!” is not going to be the answer for me. It’s ignoring a lot of cultural background and baggage. I received some really rude and horrid answers elsewhere already (including directed at me and FH in addition to my family). I’m trying here before I maybe give up asking for help and just take a chance.

Short version: My perfect wedding gown is black but my Asian immigrant parents are going to have an absolute fit. It’s making me realize the hard choices that are all incoming and I don’t know how to deal.
Long version: I finally went dress shopping this past weekend and my perfect dress happened to be black. I have never been the type to believe I would get married, so I had entered dress shopping decently prepared (ie budget set, general preferred silhouette known, etc.) but with an open mind. I don’t believe in “feeling like a princess”; I cosplay as a hobby so my nice dress standards are a smidge over the top by some people’s measures and I’ve felt like a pretty princess plenty enough times through my hobby.
But this dress completely blew me away. It was a suggestion by the stylist and even with the wrong sample size…I felt good. I don’t know any other way to say it. When I stepped out of the dressing room, even the other brides there and their groups paused to look (btw is this rubbernecking thing normal for bridal stuff? I feel it happens a lot!). Two of the other brides even came over to tell me “This is it. This is Your Dress.” Heck, even one lady told me she was initially against black bridal dresses but I was making her reconsider! I showed the dress later to my friends in a lineup of everything tried on and this one was the clear winner without my input.
I feel the universe is telling me This Is The Dress. As corny as it is, my hearts says this is the dress (plus, I could reuse it for cosplay!). But my parents had specifically begged me to not get a black wedding dress and they are going to be livid.
My parents are immigrant refugees and they’ve worked their damnedest to raise two special needs kids in addition to supporting extended family. They weren’t always the best parents but they tried their best in the only way they knew how (ex. academics seen as a guaranteed meal ticket to economic stability at the detriment of social skills). I respect them but I want to balance pleasing them and my happiness.
I tried to journal out all the grievances they currently have or will have with my wedding in order to get my thoughts out and find solutions. I ended up with 30something items. I sadly didn’t even have to dig around mentally for these. Some examples of what they dislike:1) No wedding party2) No church wedding3) We do not want the traditional Asian formal engagement party (supposed to show both families approve of the impending union and formalize the engagement)4) I want to change into the traditional Asian bridal attire later (yes, my Mom is against this since she feels it’s refusing to “modernize”. She herself did not wear it.)5) Wanting to walk down aisle with both parents
For the record, FH and his family have been completely supportive of us. They’re Asian too but differently minded. Unfortunately, my parents use the excuse of them being also Asian to justify being traditionalist and refuse to acknowledge how his parents are non traditional. Also, we’re 100% paying for this ourselves. I have been steadfastly refusing a financial hand and it’s been another source of grief.
Has anyone else talked about juggling the cultural divide with their family? How did it go down? What did it take to gain some ground? What compromise did you personally take and why?
Many thanks!

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Latest activity by Michelle, on March 6, 2023 at 1:05 PM
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    VIP August 2021
    Michelle ·
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    Hi Mimimushrooms! Welcome to WW. It sounds like you are experiencing the plight of many couples with overbearing caregivers. Your wedding is not for another year, and yet they've expressed a lot of their distaste already. So I will reiterate others' advice, and try to tell them less. When they ask for details, be casual and vague, "we haven't decided yet" and change the topic. It sounds like they have had to be very hands-on and protective, but they also need time to learn boundaries (as we all). For some cultures, disagreement is even offensive. So in the everyday, tell them less and you will argue less.

    I also think their big issue is that they feel less included. So maybe give them a couple big things, like hosting a dinner of the 2 families (a tone-down engagement party). And this will be controversial, but one thing that knocks out traditional parents is giving them the church. But, only consider this if it's not a dealbreaker to you and your future spouse. As for why are parents so insistent on what goes on your body-- I have no idea. Even down to wedding earrings, people choose oddities to control. Stand your ground. You and your partner have your own multi-cultural influences, tastes, and ideas, and you should be heard and respected. If you have to remind your parents you are of both worlds, then say it straight.

    Ps. I've been trying to figure out what kind of Asian you are. Smiley smile I'm SE Asian married to a mainland? Asian and we are both raised in the US. We decided to include some cultural elements ourselves in ceremony and decor, because it was important to us. In my case, parents were almost too laid back, and I actually wanted to do the tea ceremony. I hope you and your FH have a wedding that expresses your individuality and priorities. Your loved ones still want the best for you, just give them grace to learn how to share you with others. Best wishes!

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  • Jasmine S.
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    Get the black dress and don't discuss it with them further. Simce your wedding is a while off, they will have time to get used to the idea. Since you're paying, you don't have to cave to any demands. This isn't about culture or ethnicity, it's about standing up for yourself and being an adult who is confident in your choices. Put them on an information diet and remember that "no" is a complete sentence.
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    Dedicated September 2023
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    I was going to suggest trying to appease them by using two outfits, but you're already planning on changing, and are facing additional stress there. My other suggestion is to show them how much you love it. I'm not sure your situation, but if there was a way to bring them to see you try it on, versus other dresses. So they can see you radiate. By the way you describe the salon reacting to you in it, it must've been a sight to behold. You were clearly radiating. So maybe sharing that with them may sway them. Otherwise, I think the only way through this, as is probably the case with some of your other listed areas of contention, is probably to just talk to them, and try to persuade them over time. To explain what it means to you, how it makes you feel special. I've heard multiple times that people who have cosplay or beauty queen backgrounds sometimes (not always) want something unique to make them feel special. If you've been a princess, then that is not what will do it. And I think if there is way to convey to them that this dress is what makes you feel so special, maybe they'll come around. Parents can be insanely stubborn, and you may never truly have them on your side, but if they can at least passively support you, then I'd call that a win.

    Also, maybe there is an accessory that would make them happy? A special earring or a special veil? (no idea if you even want a veil) Maybe using a special kind of flower? Something that would make them feel heard and honored. I am totally just throwing out random ideas.

    That sounds like a very stressful situation, and I'm sorry you're having to deal with such strong opinions.

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    Two more... is saving face part of your parents' culture? This is complex and I have only read about it. Assure them that in your present culture, this is not necessary, and should be of relief to let go (financially and emotionally). Also, if it causes disharmony to say no, just use the survival trait of keeping secrets. In this way, your choices will not be subject to their approval and they have a way out by acting surprised.

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    Mimimushrooms ·
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    Thank you for your kind words! To answer your first comment too, I’m trying to be a smidge discreet (since I know Mom trawls wedding boards too) but we’re a SE Asian and mainlaind couple too. We’re both born here; his family has been here a few generations though so definitely a lot more Westernized than mine.



    We want to work in some cultural elements for sure. I don’t mind the tea ceremony and the presentation of the bridal parure set from my parents. I inherited my great aunt’s and my grandmother’s sets and while neither of them are my style, I am deeply honored they are left in my care. My Mom actually tried to be forward thinking by suggesting we get a different style of necklace than what’s usually standard.

    The idea of a semi-formal engagement dinner could be helpful. We may go this route since it dawned on me that could help “officialize” the engagement to my parents. We’re pretty firm on no church wedding; we have a large variety of faiths in the core guest list and I think reminding my mother of that will help her see how “neutral ground” is the most appealing for a lot of potential guests.

    You absolutely hit the nail on the head regarding “saving face”. I have gotten lectured on the importance of “maintaining face” so many times in my lifetime. At this point in time, the information diet may be the way to go. Thank you again for your perspective!
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    Update: I told them about the dress today. It went about how I expected except there was no shouting and a lot of crying. Shouting would have been much easier to deal with.


    This entire wedding planning process has been very enlightening for me and my family. We have a whole ossuary’s worth of skeletons dug up from closets. I am sorely disappointed by my family and pity them for how they choose to live. They live in perpetual fear of the judgement of others and seek approval from people they don’t actually like or agree with but are dependent on said approval anyway.

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    Aww, Mimimushrooms. You must feel exhausted by their worries and tears. But, surely they must be as well. Step away emotionally and refocus on yours and your partner's needs. You cannot help family break from their generational trauma and cultural guilt on your time schedule. It's useless to pity them because it's not your place to control or judge them, and vice versa as they cannot control you through a dress and finally learning this. When your wedding day comes, just focus on sharing joy with those who want to take part, and everyone will see the world didn't crumble afterall. I support you. All will be okay.

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    Happy update y’alls; got married, wore the dress, and my parents actually apologized for all the mean things they have said.


    As an Asian American kid, I am absolutely shook. I don’t know how to express the enormity of this for anyone who doesn’t have the cultural context. This is HUGE.
    I’ll say it did help when my parents didn’t become automatic pariahs with my family on sight! But wow, I am impressed they were able to be better for themselves and me.
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  • Michael
    Rockstar October 2023
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    Congratulations on the wedding and so glad to hear your parents apologized so your memories would be much better.

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    Congratulations on being married~! I'm glad your parents apologized, and have come into the 21st century of accountability. What a great way to make peace with your old life and step into your new life with your partner.

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