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Liesl
Dedicated September 2018

Self-uniting Marriage

Liesl, on July 11, 2018 at 4:22 PM Posted in Wedding Ceremony 0 7

So, we planned to have our friend who is an online ordained minister officiate our wedding. I've had several bad experiences with officiants and really wanted someone I trusted to do it. Well unfortunately the legality of online ordained in PA is questionable so we started to look into different options. A few of my friends have Self-Uniting marriages and recommended that to me so we could still have our friend lead the wedding but we can still get legally married that day (self uniting you need witnesses but not an officiant). We live in county where these type of marriage licences are very easy to get. This seemed to be the perfect solution, except now my FH, who is a Police officer, is convinced that if he dies on the job that I'm not going to get compensation, saying they are going to claim we're not legally married. He has no proof of this happening to anyone else, I've done my research online and calling, even our friend who works claims for a life insurance company says she's never heard of self uniting effecting a claim. It also bothers me that this was never a concern in the last 4 years he's been a PO (we've been together 6), and he wanted to wait for common law marriage which he did not realize till after we were engaged isn't recognized in PA.

He wanted us to get married in the courthouse a couple of days before and then have a symbolic ceremony the day that we planned the wedding. We discussed the options months ago and he seemed okay with the idea of Self-Uniting, but now he's being very passive aggressive it. I've been saying that if it makes him feel better, I have no issues getting courthouse married a few days before (both of our families are okay with this as well). But when I say this he just tells me "no, we'll compromise and do what you want to". This is really starting to get on my nerves. If I say we'll get self united, he goes into a speech about how it's bad that he won't be able to take care of me or his future family after his death... if I say we'll do the courthouse marriage first, he tells me no that we've already agreed on Self-uniting and refuses to discuss it... and when I say we'll just hire an officiant, he gets irritated and says that's not what either of us want... With the wedding being under 2 months away we need to decide what we're going to do and I cannot seem to win with him. I don't know what to do.



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Latest activity by happeningmom, on July 12, 2018 at 9:16 PM
  • The Nuptials
    VIP July 2018
    The Nuptials ·
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    My only suggestion is to keep talking it out. You have time, try to have a decision by the last day of July. The only really issue here is that most will say that everyone should know they aren't witnessing the actual marriage between two people. So while your parents know, all guests should know. I'm left to assume your FI doesn't want to do self unifying and is finding excuses so other options are probably my best.
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  • earias
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    If you do the self-uniting ceremony wouldn't you still need to get a marriage license and file it after the ceremony? If so, then this is all the legal proof you need to show you're married.

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  • Liesl
    Dedicated September 2018
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    Yes, you treat it exactly the same and they look almost the same, the only difference is instead of an officiant signature you have witness signatures.

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    I find his concern really odd. Does he think that the Quakers aren't legally married, since they are the ones that this type of license was originally created for them? I'd have him call the county courthouse and inquire, that way he's hearing first hand and not through you.
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  • earias
    Champion December 2017
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    Then your FH doesn't have anything to worry about. It is the marriage license that gets registered with the state that proves you are legally married. Just make sure you follow the instructions exactly for filling it out and pay attention to the deadline to file it with the county clerk's office (or your state's equivalent). For instance, in California, there can be no cross-outs, typos, etc. and it must get filed within 10 days after the ceremony. After the ceremony you will most likely need to request a certified copy for your records because they usually don't send you one automatically (at least in CA they don't).

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  • Liesl
    Dedicated September 2018
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    He's in court all the time for his job and I believe he talked to someone there about it because he said he was going to. I think he doesn't want to admit he was wrong about it not being legal (or common).
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    Have someone who has the authority in the police department marry you eithe Ron the day of or a couple days before then have the ceremony that the two of you have already discussed.
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