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Son's Fiance completely excluding groom's family from wedding-result of no ring/no bring

Cherry, on March 26, 2021 at 10:08 PM

Posted in Family and Relationships 53

Before Covid, my parents celebrated their 65th wedding anniversary in June of 2019. My son asked if he could bring his girlfriend to the celebration. I said no-we have a no ring, no bring policy re holidays and serious family occasions. My son asked if my husband and I would reconsider. I said no...

Before Covid, my parents celebrated their 65th wedding anniversary in June of 2019. My son asked if he could bring his girlfriend to the celebration. I said no-we have a no ring, no bring policy re holidays and serious family occasions. My son asked if my husband and I would reconsider. I said no and also pointed out this would be unfair to his sister, who, while she is married now, did not bring her then boyfriend to any family events or holidays until they were engaged. I told him he knew that was how our family operated.

The anniversary party happens and my son does not show up. I call him and he says since his girlfriend could not come, he was not going to be there. He said they were serious and this would have been the perfect time to introduce her. I told him that I had no idea he was in a serious relationship and two, this would not have been a good time because her presence would have distracted from the occasion. Introductions would have to be made to all the family and friends there and everyone would have been trying to get to know his girlfriend.

My son said he and his girlfriend were hurt that an exception could not be made. Fast forward to Thanksgiving of 2019. My son invited us and his sister and her husband and my granddaughter to his place to introduce his girlfriend. We find out that they are engaged. That was a big surprise and I felt very hurt that was sprung on us-I would have liked to have time to get to know my son's now fiance.

I told my son this later in an email-which he told me he shared with his fiance. My son told me that we, his family were last to be told because we seemed unsupportive and that is fiance's family was told first, because they had supported them every step of the way-it was an eight month courtship.

My husband I were hurt by this, but we still extended to help with the wedding any way we could. My son told us that was not necessary-he, his fiance and her family would do it all. My son says that his fiance's family feels we are racist as my son's fiance is African-American and that our no ring, no bring policy was extremely hostile and unwelcoming and that she and her family feel unwelcome by us/

During the pandemic and before, I reached out to my son's fiance-to go to lunch, shopping-before the pandemic. Each time I was turned down. During the pandemic we have zoomed with my son and his fiance has never been in the room or tried to join in. There is nothing from her end other than radio silence.

This is not how I imagined my son's wedding to go nor a relationship with my son's future wife. What more can I do?




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  • Samantha
    VIP October 2022
    Samantha ·
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    I’m really curious where this policy started. “No ring no bring” is a newer concept, weddings have changed drastically in the past 30-40 years, and the sheer cost has led to rather draconian guest cut offs, as well as the dynamics and configuration of families, and delayed marriage.
    That said, “no ring no bring” for family functions is rather unusual. In North America at the very least, there is a time honored tradition of bringing the girlfriend/boyfriend to meet the family for a major holiday. It’s the subject of many a movie, drama, sitcom. Even the wealthy clannish families - the Kennedy’s, for example - do this, and it’s one of the ways they see if the new person will fit in with their family dynamic. The Kennedy’s are known for “testing out” new signifiant others by observing if they are a good sport in their family athletic competitions.
    It’s been a sign of moving on to the “next step” up the relationship escalator when joining the SOs family for a family event or holiday. I know that this WW has an international component, so forgive me if I assumed that you were from a western English speaking culture - if not, your English has excellent colloquial usage!
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  • Alyssa
    Super October 2023
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    Good on your son for realizing who is actually there for him and supporting of his relationship. Don't be surprised if you don't get an invite to the wedding.
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  • Haley
    Beginner April 2021
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    If I am being completely honest don't be surprised if you aren't apart of that wedding. That action pushed your son away quite a bit and it shows. He wanted to share an important piece of his life with you! For you to just shut him and his now fiance down probably made him believe well if mom didn't want her to be included then I am gonna exclude my mom. Especially when contacting her parent they are not children they are adults! You can't overstep boundaries like that and expect them to want a relationship with you. As a mother, you should support your children even if you don't necessarily love the idea. The least you could have done in the first place was offered to have her over the next weekend to get to know her! DONT BE TOXIC

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  • Christina
    Savvy September 2021
    Christina ·
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    Why did the son wait for a BIG family function to introduce his " Serious" girlfriend. and then when mom and dad said no then why did he wait until the engagement announcement to introduce. The policy is not a race thing, there is always certain " policies" in every family. it would have been different if his sister got to bring her BF/ now hubby and then the parents say no to him.

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  • Elizabeth
    Super June 2021
    Elizabeth ·
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    "I hope this post serves as a warning to others who want to institute a "no ring no bring" or other equally hurtful and disrespectful policy (only inviting SO's who have been together for X amount of time, for example) for invites to their weddings. Your choices can cause lasting damage to relationships."


    This!
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  • Jules
    Dedicated October 2021
    Jules ·
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    You and your husband need a very qualified therapist to help you through this situation... Your son does not need to be in therapy, he’s healthy and handling the situation (that you’ve created) very well. It sounds like you guys need some professional, unbiased help beyond an Internet forum. And if you go to therapy, it will probably improve all of your relationships and prove that you are trying to change your behavior and open to changing. There’s always room for us all to improve ourselves! 💗
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  • Kelley
    Savvy June 2021
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    A genuine apology to your son and fiance would be a good start, with a sincere congratulations on their engagement. Tell them you would love to get to know your DIL better, but you respect their boundaries and will not push the issue. And then leave it alone, they may or may not reach out, but continuing to push them and reach out to her family is not helping. It may be too late to repair this before the wedding, but hopefully will leave the door open for a relationship with them in the future.
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  • Pirate & 60s Bride
    Legend March 2017
    Pirate & 60s Bride ·
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    This 💯 percent.
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  • Ava
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    Ava ·
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    I have to agree. I know there are several brides on this forum who advocate for, and defend their decisions to not allow friends/family members (sometimes even their own wedding party members!) to bring their significant others unless they have been together for X amount of time, have already been in a relationship when they make out their guest list, or are in what the bride deems a “serious” relationship. I hope this post serves as proof that this behavior can have detrimental effects on relationships.
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    Older etiquette books all talk about the no ring, no bring. Many as useful in large gatherings, sorting who to invite . Though on their homes, restaurants, or minor parties and dinner parties those not engaged would be acceptable. And others saying it is awful. It drops out steadily starting mid '70-80 with the first decade in which it became outright common in much of America for couples to live together before engagement or marriage. That is when my parents married, and received what used to be a common shower gift, a general etiquette book.
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  • Samantha
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    I used to collect these books, and had several from the 18th Century till around the 80s. The custom of inviting established couples as a unit can be interpreted as a “no ring, no bring” in some sense I guess.
    To extrapolate that it was expected that young people not introduce potential romantic interests to the family at large until a formal engagement is a reach. That is not the norm at all. The OP seems to be saying that they don’t bring to any family events until an engagement. That’s really not common at all for many cultures.
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  • Samantha
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    I guess what I am saying is that etiquette books tend to focus on who you *should* invite, and the OP is focused on who *shouldn’t* be invited to family events, it comes across as unusual. Maybe their family is a huge extended clan and meeting boyfriends/girlfriends before engagement would cause an undue burden - of that’s the case, she blessed with a large and close knit family.
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    You said it yourself without saying it...it was your parents 65th wedding anniversary party. 65 years ago things were vastly different. Couples didn't live together before being engaged and a boyfriend needed to get permission to marry their daughter (this is mostly a gesture today rather than a formal request) Life is different today things cost more money, relationships don't follow the same path as they did 65 years ago.

    Everything seems so formal, lighten up and you will see things go differently and hopefully your son and your FDIL will come around.

    I wish you the best and be supportive of the life/family they are starting.

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