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Beginner February 2020

Thanksgiving Drama- traditional parents are disappointed.

Pasqua, on November 20, 2018 at 7:37 AM Posted in Family and Relationships 1 32

My fiance and I are getting married February 2020 and we are both from giant Italian families. For the last two years of our relationship we have spent holidays separate from each other but this year, now that we are engaged, we would like to spend them together. We both want to share holidays and my family wants the same thing as well. It's kind of the expectation that once you are engaged you begin spending holidays together.

My fiance's family is much more traditional Catholic Italian...they cannot fathom doing anything like holidays, etc. outside of marriage. They feel like they failed to raise my fiance correctly because of this holiday debacle. They can be very stubborn....and now as it works out I am going to be spending Thanksgiving with them. So even though we care and love each other (I do really love his family) now I am a sort of a reluctant guest.

My father will not look at my fiance favorably if we decide to not spend the holiday together, especially when I told him that we would after he asked me about it multiple times. Either way we are losing, we anger one side or the other. We just want to share a special day with each other, to share a meal with family and enjoy everyone's company. Why does this have to be a bad or immoral thing? I already have an expensive ring on my finger- do I really need to wait another year and half for the other one?

I don't want to disappoint either side, I do not want to offend someone's beliefs, but this is what my fiance and I want. We want to be together on Holidays and his family can't stand it. I know we should stick to our guns but I'm having a hard time trying to deal with my first holiday away from my family as well as being some form of an uninvited guest. I'm not looking forward to any holidays now- it just feels like it all has been tainted by my future in-laws' distaste.

Is there any advice I could get? Has anyone else ever had to handle a situation like this?

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Latest activity by Star, on November 25, 2021 at 1:11 PM
  • Sarah
    Master June 2016
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    This sounds very strange to me. My best friend comes from an incredibly traditional Italian Catholic family (her father was born in Italy and moved here to teach before meeting her mom) and her now husband has always spent holidays with them, even before they were engaged and her brother’s wife did the same before they got engaged as well.

    Instead of focusing on their distaste, I would focus on the excitement between you and your FH as you’ll now be celebrating holidays together. I’m sorry they’re putting a damper on this for you.
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  • Talia
    Super October 2020
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    Do you guys live close to each others families? Maybe for dinner you can go to his parents house for dinner and then yours for dessert?

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  • J
    Savvy March 2021
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    Visit both families if you live in same cities or celebrate with one on Thanksgiving and the other on Christmas. Don't make it difficult.

    You and your fiance are adults forming your own family. Therefore, the two of you need to make your decisions and announce then to everyone else. Practice that now before you become puppets of Mommy and Daddy and have serious marital problems.
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  • Melissa
    VIP September 2019
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    How far apart do your families live from each other? Luckily his side and my side are only about 30 minutes apart so we go see both. We will do Thanksgiving with his family as mine does not do a big celebration for that. Then we do Christmas Eve and Christmas morning with my family and his family we see around dinner time.
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  • Chariece & Sterling
    VIP January 2026
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    I agree with celebrating the holidays with both family as was stated by others. And I would rotate if you spend Thanksgiving with his family this year. Thanksgiving 2019 will be with yours. However it will get to point when you guys will have your own family and you might want to host your own holidays celebration. So this is something that will eventually have to be discussed and respected.
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  • MrsV1027
    Master October 2018
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    That's super odd. It's a holiday. I've never heard of someone not being able to spend a holiday together because they aren't married yet. Do the two of you live together?

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  • NVV2B
    VIP January 2019
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    I am so sorry you are dealing with this. I have never heard of anyone feeling this strongly about this, and I have several friends that come from very strict religions. Try and ignore them as much as possible and enjoy this time with your FH.

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  • Sarah
    Master June 2016
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    I think a lot of pps are missing the point. OP is saying that her family believes that her and her FH should attend holidays together (at whoever’s house they decide) because they’re engaged now. Her FH’s parents believe they should each be celebrating holidays with their respective families and shouldn’t be celebrating together with either family until after they are married.
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  • Kimberly
    Expert October 2019
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    My FH and I have been together for almost 6 years now. On Thanksgiving, we rotate years. One year my family, one year his. His family is Puerto Rican and his father is very old school in how the household functions. The first year he was supposed to spend with my family, his father wouldn't allow it. Not due to any form of religious beliefs, mainly it was a control thing.
    Now, we spent the holidays together long before be we got engaged. We had been living together for 4 years before we got engaged. But is it possible that his family is really after control? At least in my situation, any time I take my FH away from something that was traditionally just them, his dad gets a little moody. I've spent a lot of years being annoyed and disappointed by that. What does your FH say? It's his family and he knows them better. Does he think it's possible the issue is something else masked as a religious angle?
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  • MIWM
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    Can you go to both houses. Go to your parents house for a little bit than head over to your fiancés families house.

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    Beginner February 2020
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    We're an hour and a half from each other- we do not want to split holidays because it takes out too much time and beyond that who knows how holiday traffic will affect that. We want to switch holidays each year (2018 Thanksgiving with his family, 2019 with mine ,etc...)

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    Beginner February 2020
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    His family is VERY close knitted. They do have trouble with anything that has their kids being removed from anything that is traditionally just them. I feel that it also a control thing- but his parents are kind of stuck in this old time bubble and are very stubborn about it. My FH agrees with me, he wants us to be together on holidays. We plan on rotating years because that's how both our families work and we like that strategy more than splitting the day up. And it isn't so much of religion, but just this principle that you only do these things once you're married- even though we're both nearing 30. It is VERY frustrating. We don't even live together and we live 1 1/2 hours from each other- a holiday should be an enjoyed thing not a conflict!

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    Beginner February 2020
    Pasqua ·
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    Yes- thank you! We're an hour and a half from each other- we do not want to split holidays because it takes out too much time and beyond that who knows how holiday traffic will affect that. We want to switch holidays each year (2018 Thanksgiving with his family, 2019 with mine ,etc...) It isn't about where we go, but just the fact that it has to be such a huge problem when I feel like it doesn't need to be.

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    Beginner February 2020
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    We do not live together- we've always been in a long distance relationship (1 1/2 hours from each other).

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  • Rayna
    Devoted July 2019
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    I’m kind of confused. Your family doesn’t seem to care where you are as long as you’re together. His family wants him with them. So is it actually a problem that you go with him? Or are you just assuming that you’re unwanted? It seems odd that they wouldn’t want to welcome you to thanksgiving so that they can have your Fiancé in attendance. If you’re truly an unwanted guest then that would hurt my feelings too and it’s probably best you guys do something private. Your fiancé should have your back and be managing this with you. The holidays are tricky but if you guys are firm and act as a team, everyone else will have to get on board.
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  • Talia
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    Ah I see. I would want to spend holidays together as well. Every year has been different for us, this is our first holiday engaged so we're going to my parents house. I'm Italian-Catholic too. I don't think my parents would look at us any type of way if I decided to go with his family. They understand we have to see everyone. I just feel bad for you guys Smiley sad The only holiday I can't miss is Christmas Eve. We do usually switch holidays too. We live like 5 minutes from his parents house and 10 from mine so we can do that. Can your FH say something to his family or will they be stubborn like you said and said you have to go?

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  • MrsD
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    My family is a large Italian family (but not as devout Catholic). However, my fiance's best friend is comes from a devout Catholic family. His mother goes to mass every single morning & teaches at the Catholic school in town. All children have been married at the Church in their family. Every year she invites my fiance & I to Thanksgiving & Christmas dinner, as well as to church with them whenever. Her kid's significant others (even if not married) are always invited too. So I'm not sure this is considered immoral in many Italian Catholic families.

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    Beginner February 2020
    Pasqua ·
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    It's a problem that my FH and I spend a holiday together in general. We plan on him being with my family for Christmas for example, and it just isn't something his family agrees with. They don't believe in us spending holidays with each other's family period. They will welcome me, it's not like I would be snubbed, but it will be obvious that there is tension- not out right unwanted but let's be honest, they're reluctant to have me join. They just can't get over the fact that two people can spend holidays together if they aren't married. My FH has my back- he actually is always the one that reminds me that we're a "team" and that we can get through anything. I agree with you that if we stay firm and stand our ground then everyone else will have to get used to it!

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  • Alejandra
    Super March 2019
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    FH and I are doing Thanksgiving at our house, easier so no one can complain lol!!! X-mas we'll do both my family's home and then FMIL's home as well. We'll make the 30 minute drive to my god mothers house where my family always celebrates at for xmas eve and then leave at about 8 or 9 pm to fmils house thats about a 40 minute drive and then finally go home which is about a 20 minute drive from fil's. I figure once we have babies we won't be going anywhere for the holidays for a bit and everyone will have no option but to come to our house. LOL. Everyone wants to be comfortable at home but we need to be realistic and try and make things easier for each other instead of harder.

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    My mother is an immigrant from Italy and I don't think it's really considered immoral as a Catholic either. My family wouldn't even care if someone was only dating another for a few months, they just want everyone around! I feel like this is just something so strange and uptight and I feel a little like his family uses religious identity as an excuse...

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