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Kylie
Beginner September 2024

To include or to not include grooms family?

Kylie, on September 16, 2021 at 12:55 PM Posted in Etiquette and Advice 0 20
Hey there everyone! To give this a little bit of context, cause this is long I apologize. But my fiancé’s sister got married earlier this year. Complicated things happened to their wedding, including COVID rearrangements. So their ceremony was pushed to early September (this month). We did everything to help them with last minute elopement preparation, including helping secure a venue for a small reception, which we knew the owner(we both worked there before). So fast forward ceremony happens and we all arrive at the venue. Fiancé and I sit down and make conversation with other members of wedding party (which fiancé and I are groomsmen and bridesmaid). We sit for 30-40 minutes when some friends of bride and groom arrive late. So bride asks to cap end chairs to table, but because pandemic restrictions, only 10 per table. So she asks the both of us to give up our seats so their friends can have the spot. So we were both hurt and put in a tight position. So we gave them up according to her wishes. So we were both hurt, so I wasn’t as involved in conversation or interacting for the rest of the night (I’m incredibly self aware that I needed to acknowledge people who spoke to me the rest of the night, so I did) In turn made fiancé’s family vilified my sadness and hurt and now they haven’t talked to me. Or my fiancé for that matter. We tried reaching out so we could all understand and explain how we were feeling and how it was a rude thing to do. But the bride has done nothing but disagree and argue why it wasn’t and that I’m being “overdramatic” and I should’ve gotten over it. She was raised where everyone did everything for her. All while attacking me and scapegoating me because they didn’t get the wedding they wanted, because of COVID, when her treatment of us was incredibly disrespectful (two separate things). Amongst other accusations, like ignoring others (which I never did) and it lead to her admitting that she never saw me as family. Which hurt. I’ve been with the family for 8 years(she’s only been with her husband for 4 years). So she had uninvited me to the ceremony and her and his parents put pressure on my fiancé to go. He’s also hurt and overwhelmed, and he decided not to go. Now his whole family hasn’t spoken, to either of us since the ceremony had happened, and we’ve been alienated. And we’re now trying to plan for our wedding because his sister got two weddings in a year and we haven’t even celebrated our engagement yet (we’ve been engaged for a year and a half). I decided not to include his sister and husband in the wedding party after their treatment towards us, and now because they gave my fiancé an ultimatum and decided to uninvite (only me), to their second wedding, I don’t know what to do for our actual ceremony. Any thoughts or advice on really any of this? It’s very complicated, loads of detail. And blown out of proportion, but his family is willing to die on that hill when I did literally nothing.

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Latest activity by Kari, on September 17, 2021 at 11:02 AM
  • Stacey
    Super May 2021
    Stacey ·
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    All of this because you were asked to move your seats? I have to be honest, that hardly seems worth it. Not saying you aren't entitled to your feelings, but boy did everyone let things irrationally spiral out of control from there. That being said, I guess my advice is that your wedding is almost two years away, and a LOT can happen between now and then. Hopefully for the better! I'd probably start with your FH and his sister sitting down and hashing out whatever happened, one-on-one, when tempers have softened and the time seems right. Figuring out who will be invited to an event two years from now shouldn't be the priority...healing should be (or at least exhausting that effort) and then making a decision closer to your date.

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  • CountryBride
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    This is a tough one what are your thoughts? I feel like you don't invite them then this is going to cause future problems for you and your husband, for example when you have kids, However, I have found a new freedom of not inviting anyone to weddings who you don't want there. I think either way you are in the right, however I don't think you need to invite them to be apart of your wedding party only your dearest family friends should be in the wedding party

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  • M
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    I agree that it's pretty difficult to interpret all of those details as anything other than senseless drama on all sides. But the bottom line is that none of the OP mentions whether her future spouse wants to invite his family to his wedding or not, and it really should be his call.

    I also agree that, with so much time before the wedding, the focus should be on repairing relationships outside of a wedding context. The wedding is only one day, but family relationships ideally last a lifetime.

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  • Kylie
    Beginner September 2024
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    I should probably mention that my fiancé is not happy with them either. He’s mad because I’ve been with this family for nearly a decade, and I’ve been with them through all kinds of hardships, deaths, celebrations ect. I want to also point out it’s more of the sister. I guess he and I had talked about it, it makes the both of us sad don’t get me wrong. I guess it’s more of as a backup in case they don’t come around. Because we have tried reaching out. Many times. Too many for how ridiculous this whole thing turned out to be. It didn’t have to be this hard. But the sister is pretty much willing to die on that hill, so to speak.
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  • Kylie
    Beginner September 2024
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    Yeah pretty much lol this could’ve been resolved very quickly. But his mother and sister tend to be very dramatic. So this has gone on wayyy longer than it should have. And we’ve tried extending the olive branch multiple time to no avail. And they can’t understand why it felt rude because it was A. Without warning, B. Rude just in general, and C. Made us feel incredibly unappreciated when all we did was to try and help them out. Not only that but the sister started posing passive aggressive messages on social media, including stories. They could’ve been anything, but the content was more than specific, so they were much aimed at me. It’s nothing but childish trust me. So my fiancé and I are both on the fence. And word got around cause I have a large Hispanic family, they all know. I also don’t want people hanging up on each other too.
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  • Kylie
    Beginner September 2024
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    I agree actually with this too. I know it’s ways away, I guess just to think ahead in case they still can’t come to a resolution with us is all I’m preparing for. Cause the countless time we’ve tried reaching out to even remotely have a conversation is futile because they have a rebuttal for everything regarding in how this has been handled, how we’ve been treated ect. To sum it up I guess they haven’t understood or empathized how it felt for us, and they’re mad we even felt that way.
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    It certainly may be that your future spouse isn't able to repair his relationship with his family. None of us can make anyone else get along, after all. But if he feels it's worth the effort, then he should keep trying. Revisit who to invite to your wedding when you get closer to the event itself.

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    You need to take a step back and let FH set boundaries and respect for you from his family. I get being upset, but it’s his family and you continuing to get involved isn’t helping things.
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  • Jasmine S.
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    I think that was a really crappy thing of them to do. Who uninvites a sibling's future spouse? You are literally becoming her immediate family so you should have been invited to their ceremony and any celebrations following. However, moving forward, there was never any obligation for you to put them in the wedding party (even if they hadn't treated you that way beforehand). I would still talk to your FH and invite them as guests, because you don't want to make this situation even worse. You will have to deal with and make peace with these people for the rest of your life, so be the bigger person.
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  • Michelle
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    That is a tough one. Very immature and disrespectful from the entire family. As much as it hurts, respect their wishes for distance and go no contact with everyone , as a team with fiancé. He needs to support you instead of siding with his family. Removing yourselves from the toxicity will be beneficial to your mental health. Do not invite any of them to your wedding nor attend any events they host.
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    I was about to give the same advice. This is your FH's decision, OP, not yours. Let him deal with his family.

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  • Kylie
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    I appreciate that. Thank you!
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  • Kylie
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    I appreciate this a whole lot. Thank you! You’re definitely not wrong I don’t want any more friction. And it’s already super awkward. But they don’t have agency over the whole thing.
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  • Kylie
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    Thank you! Yeah we’re taking a step back for now.
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    You're welcome! Families can be such a pain-in-the-you-know-what to deal with. Not fun! I have a feeling that if he decides to exclude his family, you guys won't miss them very much. Congrats, and good luck to the two of you!

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  • Jacks
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    Agree with this.

    I will add there seems to be a lot of drama for no reason here, possibly on both sides. My advice is to draw boundaries and in future take a very large step back from this family. Interact with them on your terms and "grey rock" all the drama. That means don't raise the drama level by giving them a response.

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  • Kari
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    I would extend an invitation to them to the wedding if you want them there. Not inviting them out of spite is not going to make this situation any better and will further drive a wedge between your fiance and his family (who all seem to be in support of the sister and not your fiance).

    I understand that being asked to move seats would be hurtful, but I also understand that with limited seats only so many can sit at a table. It sounds like there were no assigned tables at the reception/dinner venue (poor choice), and that's on the couple for not planning better. I can understand feeling hurt, and understand bride thinking its her day and asking you to move was NBD. However uninviting you to wedding event #2 but expecting fiance to go is just petty and rude. The fact that her family supports this behavior clearly supports her entitlement.

    How does your fiance feel? It is his family after all. I would defer any expectations to him and support him how best you can. Not including his sister and her husband in your wedding party sounds like a good move, but you might still wish to include them as guests if your fiance wants them there or you think it will avoid family drama.

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  • Kylie
    Beginner September 2024
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    You’re definitely right. The excess drama is exactly what I want to avoid cause it shouldn’t have happened to begin with. And thank you! I wish I could just “like” these comments lol
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  • Kylie
    Beginner September 2024
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    He’s hurt and very angry at the way they have treated me. They’ve excluded me from a lot of stuff, since the first wedding (back in January). With the moving us around I want to make a side note, we were settled with drinks, appetizers and conversation with others nearly an hour in. And moved for guests who were late. Nonetheless we obliged them. Which I can understand, but it was without warning. I appreciate it, thank you for your assurance!
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  • Kari
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    Yes, let your fiance take the lead on this one, but support however you can. If neither of you want them there, then not including them is certainly an option. It sounds like the family favors the sister anyway. I would typically caution against further fanning the flames, but if the bridge is already burned, there isn't much to salvage.

    I agree that asking you to move seats when already established was super rude and you being a little antisocial afterward totally makes sense. That could have been the end of it though. Them "uninviting" you from a wedding was just too much, and expecting your fiance to still go and thrusting him in the middle is just so selfish and awful. You don't owe them or the family (who has supported and indulged those behaviors) anything.

    I'm sorry you and your fiance are having to deal with this. Definitely support whatever he decides.

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