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Beginner July 2023

Venue Contract

Eliza, on June 3, 2022 at 12:34 PM Posted in Planning 6 16
We found a venue we really like and it has pretty decent reviews on WeddingWire (4/5). However we’re discussing the contract with them and there are some red flags. We’re trying to overcome those red flags but they are adamant they cannot change or add anything to the contract.


They included a line about how they are entitled to change prices at any time (no specifics on what they base their increases on either) which is VERY concerning for my fiancé and I since we have a tight budget. They also make it very clear in the contract that most if not all liability is on us (not them) and if force majeure occurs then there’s nothing they can do and they’d be legally released from having to perform any of their duties. However it makes no mention of how we as the customers would be able to recover from that. They are also refusing to include in the contract what the venue will provide to us in the wedding (tables, glassware, aisle runners, etc). They said this will come later, close to our wedding date.

Again, the venue is very adamant they cannot make any changes or additions to the contract. But they have answered many of our questions through email for example they said more or less what would happen if COVID spiked (essentially we have one year to reschedule). HOWEVER, they conveniently have a clause in the contract that basically says everything that is stated in the contract is all that was agreed upon between the venue and us. I fear this clause would invalidate what they’ve been telling us through email and phone.
Are these common situations with other venues/contracts? Should we be concerned or is this typical? We’re really torn right now.

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Latest activity by Amber, on April 3, 2024 at 7:02 PM
  • Sarah
    Master September 2019
    Sarah ·
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    I would be concerned about all of this and the fact that they're unwilling to change any of it would make me walk away. The price change thing can happen but usually it's a potential percentage increase by a certain date based on food costs. It being open-ended without listing anything they're including is a huge red flag. I would move on to a different venue.
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    Dedicated September 2023
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    I'm not a lawyer, but I would be very concerned if there was a clause that could invalidate things they said via email. It is very common for vendors to not budge on contract language, but if there are reasons for you to be worried, I wouldn't sign it. At the end of the day, the contract is the binding document, and if they want to, they can use it against you. Personally, I wouldn't sign it. I'm sorry about this! Contracts are so tiresome, and I definitely had to move on from some vendors because I wasn't comfortable with some of the contract language.

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  • Claire
    Savvy September 2022
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    They are absolutely able to change things in their contract - whether the particular person you're working with is willing or authorized to is the question. I'd move on from this vendor because they don't seem like they'll be reasonable to work with going forward. If you sign it, a judge may still side with you because they're the sophisticated party and because contracts are supposed to allow both parties to negotiate, not just one party to dictate everything, BUT that's obviously a whole expensive ordeal and at the end of the day you want the wedding you want, not a win in court 2 years later. This doesn't seem worth the anxiety.

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  • Paige
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    Contract clauses that state the entire agreement is what's written in the contract and that the contract supersedes any other written or verbal agreement are called merger clauses. They're standard contract clauses which prevent other discussions, emails, etc. to be considered to be agreed-upon terms should the contract come into question. Here, the force majeure clause would likely supersede the emails where they say what their COVID procedures are (this of course depends on your state's laws, judge's interpretations, etc.). Contracts are definitely negotiable, so if this venue isn't willing to change anything, I'd look elsewhere. Like Claire mentioned, you could prevail in court if it came to that, but that'll likely cost money and a few years, and it's probably not worth it when you could just go someplace else.

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  • Hanna
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    I would walk away and find a new venue. Too many red flags here. Also, you can't really trust reviews on Wedding Wire because they're known to remove the negative reviews.

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  • Orianna
    Devoted December 2022
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    Walk away. I'm a paralegal and I deal in contracts all day long. Walk. Away.

    The clause at the end that worries you - would worry me greatly. And I would absolutely flag it if it came across my desk. Further, force majeure clauses are standard, but usually there is a clause that allows for the client to recover damages if they need to via a specific avenue (whether thats injunctive or not).

    Saying that they won't specify what they will provide is troubling greatly. And having them say "well that will come later" indicates that they plan on adding an amendment, which in turn is a change to the contract, so they are able to do it, but they are giving themselves a loop hole to renege on just about everything they've discussed with you.

    Walk away. To me that contract would get a big sticky note on it that says "Bad faith agreement" and would not be signed.

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  • Michael
    Rockstar October 2023
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    Worse yet. If the venue does not include any features subject to volatile pricing, a price increase should not be permitted. Some minor increases they incur should be either included in the bid or should be a minor loss of profit on their side. They should assume some standard risks in taking on a contract.

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  • Cece
    Rockstar October 2023
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    Run, don’t walk, away from this venue. These are major red flags! And also, do not base any decisions on reviews on weddingWire. Unfortunately, there is a long history of them deleting negative reviews. I would start researching new venues, using other platforms for reviews (Google, yelp, local wedding groups/chats, etc.).
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  • MOB So Cal
    January 2019
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    Agree with others that you should keep looking. Daughter's contract had a price increase clause (we signed about 16 months in advance), but the increase was capped at 10% of the price we agreed to when we signed. Yes, it could increase, but we budgeted for the maximum potential increase and didn't have to worry about a big surprise at the last minute.

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  • Bird
    Super June 2021
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    All of the red flags you listed are deal breakers for me.


    You could TRY hand writing in the things they agreed upon in emails onto the contract and have them initial by the additions. But it sounds like they wouldn’t even agree to do that.
    I would find another venue. You should have total trust and peace of mind when it comes to your venue.

    Good luck 🍀
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  • Cathy
    Dedicated September 2022
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    I am not a legal expert but I can tell you that leaving the price open ended (should have a cap on it) and not stating what items are included, would be enough for me to walk away. Also, sometimes there is just a felling about how the interactions are occurring that give you a warning. Think of it this way, what happens if 90 days out from your wedding, they increase prices by 25% & don’t include items that you “ thought” would be included. That would be devastating for you & you would probably have to cancel. My daughter’s wedding is 90 days out & after numerous phone calls to the ceremony venue, we finally received a return phone call letting us know the wedding coordinator was no longer there…then we find out that they double booked a wedding right after ours. They are trying to tell us that we have one hour for our wedding. (The other wedding is supposed to follow our end time within an hour) Fortunately I have a contract that states the time of the wedding, the location within the venue (botanical gardens) & what time we have to depart. My poor daughter was literally trying on her wedding dress when we received the call & she was just devastated…also for the other bride! We signed the contract 15 months ago but personnel changes happen. Fortunately for us, we are the first wedding & we do not have to figure out this mess. So my gut for you says, move one!
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  • Sylvana
    Devoted August 2021
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    Speaking from experience. Do not sign a contract with that type of wording. Your email communication will not have a leg to stand on should something go wrong.
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    Beginner July 2023
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    Thanks Orianna! Upon reading the clause a little more closely it actually says “This document embodies the entire and complete agreement between the parties and may not be modified except by a writing signed by both of the parties”. Do you think an email would suffice as “a writing” here?
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  • Orianna
    Devoted December 2022
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    It would have to also be signed, so I’m inclined to say no. That clause is written so that any changes would be created under an Amendment banner. Which are then also signed by all parties involved. Because emails are not signed (either wet ink or digital) I can’t see another party actually taking it as having any legal standing.


    To me, there’s too many things that are really important for your day that they are refusing to put in the contract (price increase cap, info regarding what they will supply like tables etc) as well as no clause for if something happens how you would recoup your losses (if their building burns down due to faulty wiring, most places would give you back a deposit, I’m not sure these people would). My non legal advice (I’m not a lawyer and therefore cannot give try legal advice, by law) is to walk away. They are giving themselves way too many loop holes to screw you over with.
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  • M
    Just Said Yes April 2025
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    Thank you for asking this question! I have been very frustrated by a similar issue, more than one vendor being unwilling to change any language within the contract - even statements that directly contradict other statements made in it. These contracts are the ones that also protect the vendor in every circumstance from any liability and leave me with little to no protections should the vendor not follow through on their obligations. I've read many contracts in my life and never had so much of an issue negotiating terms until dealing with wedding vendors. I've been made to feel like I am asking for something unreasonable and it's really helpful to see that I'm not the only one struggling and that I am within my rights to ask for protections.
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    Dedicated April 2024
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    I'm not comfortable with the price change at any time clause. That sounds shady. The force majeure is an "Act of God" clause which basically means if a tornado with no warning strikes & the building is lost, they're under no obligation to help you figure out what to do & that is a pretty standard clause. Lastly, refusal to include what's included is also shady. You need to know exactly how many tables, chairs, linens, the color of them, etc will be provided, if any. Waiting until "later" doesn't sound reliable. As a previous planner, Id guide you away from them & toward other options. It may seem overwhelming, especially if you're excited about that venue, but there are many others with more clear contracts. Protect yourself because very few will look after your well being. Vendors hear the word "wedding" & they also hear "cha-ching!"

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